Who's more obnoxious. Louisiana people about gumbo or Philly people about cheesesteaks

[STEVE]

Louisiana Seafood period is

All except for Gulf Coast oysters. Those are terrible. Everything else in LA shreds.

 

[ORDER_66]

Mustard on a philly? Breh you violating. That’s like putting ketchup on a hot dog

ketchup is made for hot dogs tho.... you MEAN ketchup on a steak right...

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

shiet they both good to me

let em hang they nuts

 

[JoseLuisGotcha]

This. It's either Mimmos or Maxs

Never heard of this place

been to Max’s but they keep getting violations from food inspectors...papers post all their violations ...so now I’m

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Dude even my wife talks about their drawl and she's from GA. Some southern places got legit WOAT accents, despite LA having the GOAT'ish of food

U from Philly and saying another state has the worst accent?


I swear mane

 

[Supper]

I don’t understand what Abby Fisher has to do with the origins, she just sold some cookbooks out west by the time gumbo was around for around 75-100 years
This is from another source

This reference is a transaltion from the french "gombeau", and is unclear if it's referring to the plant "okra" or the actual dish. The first recipes to the dish itself come from Virginia and Alabama.

This is from your first source you cited:

This source is also a translation from french and is also unclear on whether it refers to the plant okra or the dish especially when it says "un gombeau" ie "a gumbo".

This article analyzes the quote directly.

Note that Baudry says that this "Gombeau" is "a kind of ketmia." Ketmia is a name given by some to okra.

Bayou Teche Dispatches: October 2011

But, even if we were to assume the quotes refer to the dish, that still as you said doesn't mean that it originates in that place, as those two quotes still come some time after the dish originated in the early 18th century. It could possibly mean that the word "gombeau" originates from Louisiana, but even that is uncertain because it was written some time after the capital of french north america had been moved from Mobile to New Orleans.

References to African Americans using okra used as a soup go back as far as 1748 in Philadelphia.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Never heard of this place

been to Max’s but they keep getting violations from food inspectors...papers post all their violations ...so now I’m

It's off Allegheny. I took my wife up there and she thought she was eating something magical

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

This. It's either Mimmos or Maxs

I dont know about Mimmos
Max cheesesteaks tho that line be long as fukk but damn he load that bytch up with mad meat -

 

[KingJay]

You know how we be

 

[southern.girl]

The first recorded gumbo recipes come from Virginia and Mobile Alabama(same place y'all got mardi gras from).

The foodie traveller ... on the best gumbo in New Orleans

North American creole history as a whole starts in Mobile Alabama as well, not Louisiana.

Some say it’s a derivative of bouillabaisse, the Provençal fish stew. It’s more likely, however,, to have arrived with the first wave of African slaves in Mobile, Alabama, in around 1720, as an evolution of soupou kandia, a Senegalese fish-and-okra stew (the word for okra in several west African languages is n’gombo).

To use the same quote that you provided for this asinine statement, do note the use of the bolded text. The writer seems to have a hard time convincing himself of the dribble that he submitted to a non regional (aka, outsider, looking in) article. And as I previously stated, I have yet to taste food in other places, including Mobile, that replicate New Orleans cuisine.

 

[PortCityProphet]

I’m from Mobile.
North American cajun history doesn’t really start until after the French and Indian war when French Canadians were kicked out of Canada and came down here. (Which is why Cajun and the Arcadian people have a similar name )
Mobile was established in 1702 and served as an administrative hub. If it was first recorded in Mobile doesn’t mean it originated there, it was just recorded there.

Gumbo originated around the 1760s in Louisiana. People down in Mobile don’t even claim it like they do out there, and jambalaya and etoufee are good but not staples of our diet. Same with boudin.

We had the first Mardi Gras parades though that is true. Mobile is the port of entry for fire ants though

In Mobile we eat more of a traditional soul food diet with seafood mixed in.

My fellow mobilian

We gettin deep up in these coli skreets

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

This reference is a transaltion from the french "gombeau", and is unclear if it's referring to the plant "okra" or the actual dish. The first recipes to the dish itself come from Virginia and Alabama.



This source is also a translation from french and is also unclear on whether it refers to the plant okra or the dish especially when it says "un gombeau" ie "a gumbo".

This article analyzes the quote directly.


Bayou Teche Dispatches: October 2011

But, even if we were to assume the quotes refer to the dish, that still as you said doesn't mean that it originates in that place, as those two quotes still come some time after the dish originated in the early 18th century. It could possibly mean that the word "gombeau" originates from Louisiana, but even that is uncertain because it was written some time after the capital of french north america had been moved from Mobile to New Orleans.

References to African Americans using okra used as a soup go back as far as 1748 in Philadelphia.

Outside of the aforementioned woman in the 1860s you have not proven it comes from Mobile. shyt man my folks come from backwoods south Alabama and I know some old old heads in Mobile and nah breh they are reaching.
Oysters in gumbo? Come on breh. Black folks don’t even really fukk with oysters like that. We don’t have oyster clam bakes or whatever. Oysters is shyt they cook over by the old slave market at a place called Wintzells. I’ll fukk up some crawdads though

 

[I AM WE ARE]

People hating on gumbo most likely can't make roux

 

[CashmereThoughts]

Philly no doubt cause Genos is fukking trash shyt ain't nothing but a steakum with cheese wiz on top of it

Just rode down to philly 2 weeks ago and hit that ishkabibles

 

[philmonroe]

Philly cuz we will literally stomp ya dumbass out for buying a bad cheesesteak, foh dikkhead

Don't agree because I never cared at all. Just the FOH dikkhead is sooooo Philly