Who's really having the better season Kobe or Wade?

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if you wanna say Andrew Bynum is a top center in 2008-9-10, go ahead, but again, history, stats and reality will not agree with you.

If you wanna say Gasol was a center, he was a PF, and he was never a top 15 player, EVER.

this is a bold lie there just is no point in arguing this if you don't understand what a guy like Gasol brought to those lakers teams

how can you truly be a laker fan and sit there and say Gasol was never a top 15 player

you truly believe the lakers win those titles without Gasol?
 

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if you wanna say Andrew Bynum is a top center in 2008-9-10, go ahead, but again, history, stats and reality will not agree with you.

If you wanna say Gasol was a center, he was a PF, and he was never a top 15 player, EVER.

:comeon: gasol made an all star team before the lakers and led the grizzlies to the playoffs 3 times before the lakers.He was a top 5 pf and is the most skilled pf in the nba besides duncan he fell off in '11 and so did the lakers title aspirations.
 

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this is a bold lie there just is no point in arguing this if you don't understand what a guy like Gasol brought to those lakers teams

how can you truly be a laker fan and sit there and say Gasol was never a top 15 player

you truly believe the lakers win those titles without Gasol?

Of course not... Pau Gasol contribution to the Lakers was amazing and I will always appreciate it...he came to a First seed in the west that was a fringe contender and made them a legit contender... but he was NEVER a top 15 player especially in 2008.

15 players better

Undeniable :

Kobe
Lebron
Wade
Bosh
Dirk
Cp3
Pierce
Dirk
Parker
Garnett
Howard
Nash
Carmelo
Dwill
Duncan
Joe Johnson
Amare
Yao Ming
Brandon Roy
TMAC

nikkas just quoting me but they literally have NO idea what they're talking about... if you quote me and say Pau is better than a player I posted in 2008 then please give me a reason why and stats not just a stupid ass smiley.
 

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this is a bold lie there just is no point in arguing this if you don't understand what a guy like Gasol brought to those lakers teams

how can you truly be a laker fan and sit there and say Gasol was never a top 15 player

you truly believe the lakers win those titles without Gasol?

:comeon:

Pau Gasol was as good as Chris Bosh...Heat's 3rd best player.


our PG was Fisher <<< Mario Chalmers
 

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Of course not... Pau Gasol contribution to the Lakers was amazing and I will always appreciate it...he came to a First seed in the west that was a fringe contender and made them a legit contender... but he was NEVER a top 15 player especially in 2008.

15 players better

Undeniable :

Kobe
Lebron
Wade
Bosh
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Dirk
Cp3
Pierce
Dirk
Parker

Garnett
Howard
Nash
Carmelo

Dwill
Duncan
Joe Johnson

Amare

Yao Ming
Brandon Roy

TMAC


nikkas just quoting me but they literally have NO idea what they're talking about... if you quote me and say Pau is better than a player I posted in 2008 then please give me a reason why and stats not just a stupid ass smiley.
i think in those prime years he had a bigger impact to a game than all those players in bold

those grizz teams were garbage and they won freaking 50 games once cuz of him it boggles my mind how underrated he is
 

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i think in those prime years he had a bigger impact to a game than all those players in bold

those grizz teams were garbage and they won freaking 50 games once cuz of him it boggles my mind how underrated he is

Again it's not about impact, its about WHOS BETTER... any he was never better than the players u highlighted, ESPECIALLY not parker brandon roy or bosh... those people are not even on the fringe... Bosh carried atrocious toronto teams to the playoffs and got wins... where as pau didn't win a single playoff game.

AND PAU WAS NEVER A BETTER DEFENDER THAN CHRIS BOSH...

Also Pau > Parker? Broy? Cmon son.



I didnt see you highlighted melo... are u serious ???

Even then with your terrible bolding, u still agree there were 13 clear better players than gasol... and clearly you were trolling with a few boldings so HE WAS NOT A TOP 15 PLAYER
 

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Again it's not about impact, its about WHOS BETTER... any he was never better than the players u highlighted, ESPECIALLY not parker brandon roy or bosh... those people are not even on the fringe... Bosh carried atrocious toronto teams to the playoffs and got wins... where as pau didn't win a single playoff game.

AND PAU WAS NEVER A BETTER DEFENDER THAN CHRIS BOSH...

Also Pau > Parker? Broy? Cmon son.



I didnt see you highlighted melo... are u serious ???

Even then with your terrible bolding, u still agree there were 13 clear better players than gasol... and clearly you were trolling with a few boldings so HE WAS NOT A TOP 15 PLAYER

you can argue bosh carried weaker teams against weaker competition while gasol was winning 50 games and had the misfortune of going against 60 win mav teams and spurs teams in round 1.

You don't think gasol on the raptors don't win any playoff games. It's all about circumstance
 

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Again it's not about impact, its about WHOS BETTER... any he was never better than the players u highlighted, ESPECIALLY not parker brandon roy or bosh... those people are not even on the fringe... Bosh carried atrocious toronto teams to the playoffs and got wins... where as pau didn't win a single playoff game.

AND PAU WAS NEVER A BETTER DEFENDER THAN CHRIS BOSH...

Also Pau > Parker? Broy? Cmon son.



I didnt see you highlighted melo... are u serious ???

Even then with your terrible bolding, u still agree there were 13 clear better players than gasol... and clearly you were trolling with a few boldings so HE WAS NOT A TOP 15 PLAYER
it is about impact to game not just stats always and yes Gasoul had more impact than those highlighted in those PRIME years not all time or now

18.3 11.3 and a .536 FG pct how is this not a top 15 player im sorry bosh never did that this on a playoff team
 

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it is about impact to game not just stats always and yes Gasoul had more impact than those highlighted in those PRIME years not all time or now

18.3 11.3 and a .536 FG pct how is this not a top 15 player im sorry bosh never did that this on a playoff team

Man you keep repeated the same thing... So now its about impact not stats? Something subjective that YOU can make up? Tyson Chandlers "impact" was more than Deron Williams but you would never say that he is better than Dwill on any level... Gasol was a great player on the Lakers but you're saying "im sorry how is this not" when I gave you the evidence...

you can argue bosh carried weaker teams against weaker competition while gasol was winning 50 games and had the misfortune of going against 60 win mav teams and spurs teams in round 1.

You don't think gasol on the raptors don't win any playoff games. It's all about circumstance
I'm not arguing who did more... I'm arguing WHOS BETTER

and its NO DEBATE... Chris Bosh always was and always will be BETTER.
 

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That's because he was never a 2nd option. Only 1st or 3rd. As a 2nd he could easily put up similar numbers IMO.

i can understand offense but his rebounds have digress hugely which didnt happen to pau
 

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Of course not... Pau Gasol contribution to the Lakers was amazing and I will always appreciate it...he came to a First seed in the west that was a fringe contender and made them a legit contender... but he was NEVER a top 15 player especially in 2008.

15 players better

Undeniable :

Kobe
Lebron
Wade
Bosh
Dirk
Cp3
Pierce
Dirk
Parker
Garnett
Howard
Nash
Carmelo
Dwill
Duncan
Joe Johnson
Amare
Yao Ming
Brandon Roy
TMAC

nikkas just quoting me but they literally have NO idea what they're talking about... if you quote me and say Pau is better than a player I posted in 2008 then please give me a reason why and stats not just a stupid ass smiley.

:aicmon: That was the year wade was injured and the heat went 15-67

Pau was a top 5-6 pf in 2008
 
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