Who's really having the better season Kobe or Wade?

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how you gon feel when kobe ties the record for most all nba first team this season?

how you gon feel when kobe ties the record for most all nba selections this season?

Longevity doesn't equal better player. It may equal more accomplished player, but not better.
 

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I love how the stans have completely reversed their opinion as to what matters.

When Wade was the only good player on the Heat he was still more efficient than Kobe. But back then it didn't matter because Wade's team sucked.

Now, Kobe isn't winning much but that's irrelevant. Just face facts, Wade is the smarter player and always has been.

I wouldn't call wade smarter, but he is a better decision maker.
 

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He shot 39 freethrows and averages 16 ppg... Wade has two players on his team that score more than that, one of them is the best player in the NBA and the other is the best PF in the nba. Dwight is a good player but his offensive limitations and imperfect health are things that are obvious and not up for debate
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He plays with 2 prime HOFs and the best shooter in NBA history, my bad.

It's very easy to be efficient when... you're on the best team in the NBA since god knows when... 2008 celtics? This team is unbelievably stacked and has the best player in the NBA and best PF and a whole host of shooters... it's extremely easy to be efficient.

So....Dwyane Wade has made adjustments to play off the ball more and have a career year from an efficiency standpoint. That's not a knock. He made adjustments and is making the most of less attempts. The rise in efficiency with less attempts keeps the production elite.

Your trying to minimize his remarkable efficiency by calling it easy, but there is something to be said about making the most of the situation. If there is one thing we can say, is that Kobe Bryant has never been willing to curb his shot selection to be a more efficient player.
 

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Lol wade Stans are so pathetic. We all know Kobe is getting his record tying 11th first dream all NBA this year? How many does wade have?

What's really ridiculous though is that a lot of wade stans have to resort to calling him "best shot blocking guard in history" to make up for his lack of 1st team defensive honors. Lol.

What's amusing is that you want to use subjective All-NBA team voting that is subject to human biases as primary evidence instead of deferring to the objective production of the two players, which favor No. 3.
 

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that's the 3 years he mention he didn't play with a top center

his fg pct was never efficient and his team records were barely average at best :wtf: were am i lying on this the stats are all there to see

In 06 season he was one game away from upsetting a 60 win team, when his teams starting line up consisted of Smush Parker and Luke Walton :heh:

They won 45 games. But you forget to mention they finished that season 11-3, with one of the losses being in overtime, by 2 points....
During this stretch kobe averaged 39 points per game during that run, two of them being 50 point games, and another 5 he scored over 40.

Not to mention the Lakers were number 1 in the west before they got Gasol.

:umad:
 

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Being 1st team All-Nba is an arbitrary thing that goes up to subjective voting.

Wade is the slightly more productive and efficient offensive player this season, while being a better defender.

Truth is Dwyane Wade is a better player than Kobe Bryant, and he's been since he entered his prime.

stop.
 

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Having a high bball IQ =/= better decision making

Kobe probably has a top 3 basketball IQ in the game, but he still makes poor decisions, not because he's stupid, but because of his ego. The only person who can stop kobe, is kobe.
 

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Having a high bball IQ =/= better decision making

Kobe probably has a top 3 basketball IQ in the game, but he still makes poor decisions, not because he's stupid, but because of his ego. The only person who can stop kobe, is kobe.

Kobe needs to ease up on himself then :smugfavre:
 

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It would be great if you actually provided a valid counter to my response.

But there isn't.

Wade is more productive and efficient every season. And counting.

So.....your basketball eyes tell you that Dwyane Wade is better than Kobe Bryant?



Forget the stats, FG%, what teams they play on, who they have on the roster, all that extra stuff.



Just off of purely watching the game of basketball, taking whatever knowledge you believe yourself to have when it comes to the NBA.......do you believe that Dwyane Wade is a better individual basketball player than Kobe Bryant?
 

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So.....your basketball eyes tell you that Dwyane Wade is better than Kobe Bryant?



Forget the stats, FG%, what teams they play on, who they have on the roster, all that extra stuff.



Just off of purely watching the game of basketball, taking whatever knowledge you believe yourself to have when it comes to the NBA.......do you believe that Dwyane Wade is a better individual basketball player than Kobe Bryant?
Without a doubt
 
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