Whose economic views and vision do you most agree with?

[Julius Skrrvin]

Getting errors when I try to cast my vote, but Keynes.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

probably keynes, but people apply policies to big corporations and forget how it affects small businesses.

congress is a bunch of corporate shills, regardless of how much kruger or elizabeth warren stuff you want to post here.

did you guys do that podcast?

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

"The Social Responsibility of Business is to Increase its Profits"

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Getting errors when I try to cast my vote, but Keynes.

getting errors as well when I try to vote for Marx

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

I think the best approach is a balanced approach. Marxism failed and unfettered Capitalism is failing the American people right now. I guess that would put me somewhere in the Keynes camp, but I don't mess with labels like that so I wouldn't say I suscribe to that either, I suscribe to what works. I think you need safety nets and tax breaks for businesses. Basically, what Canada has. People get caught up in this school vs this school, it ain't about that. What about my man Abe? What ya'll make of him?

 

[Blackking]

can't fully say Marx -- have to say Friedman as well, free markets are cool.. no taxes for the poor are also cool.

 

[Regular_P]

Didn't vote because there's not one view I wholly agree with. I'd say it's a combo of Keynes and Marx for me.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

@The Real wheres that vote

 

[Odyssey]

Seven votes for Marx and two votes for Hayek. No wonder so many of the conversations here are an absolute nightmare, from race, to class, to gender, to economics. So many of you are god damned communists! .


Does America seriously lean that far left that it will throw the ideals of classical liberalism in the trash and support communist theory?

You're country is finished.

 

[babylon1]

marx. and real marxism has never been attempted outside of communes

 

[theworldismine13]

how many countries are gonna fail before people realize marxism is a dead end?

lol @ real marxism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Seven votes for Marx and two votes for Hayek. No wonder so many of the conversations here are an absolute nightmare, from race, to class, to gender, to economics. So many of you are god damned communists! .


Does America seriously lean that far left that it will throw the ideals of classical liberalism in the trash and support communist theory?

You're country is finished.

I voted for Keynes, but most of the people who voted for Marx in the poll don't consider themselves communists. I think their votes were mostly based upon thinking forward beyond capitalism, and his assessment about the struggle between capital and labor forming being the driving force behind progress in society. Marx had little to say about what this stateless, classless society would look like, just that it would occur. Granted, attempts to speed along the progress in concordance with his vision in the U.S.S.R. turned out to be horribly flawed.

He was very prescient in his prediction that advances in technology and would lead to less of a need for labor in capitalist societies, resulting in great instability. You're seeing that taking place now with technology and automation rendering a lot of jobs obsolete, and a growing underclass who are unemployed, marginally employed, or scraping by on barely livable wages and government assistance, and that will only increase in the future.

So I think most people voting for Marx aren't necessarily communists, they just think capitalism is growing more and more unsustainable, and the inevitability of a new paradigm rising from its ashes in the future. But you can ask them instead of making shallow, bloviating statements.

If you're going to diss Marx fine, but let's not act like Hayek's philosophy doesn't exist in a vacuum, and he wasn't soundly defeated by Keynes and rejected by the whole industrialized world in the 20th century. Even after Keynes' reputation took a hit in the 70's, governments gravitated more toward Friedman's ideas than Hayek's. No government has ever implemented his no government intervention, no central banking plan in the 20th century (unless you consider Somalia), so he remains a cartoon cutout hero for lame Ron Paul stans in their pajamas in front of computers.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

@The Real wheres that vote

@TrueEpic08 too. I didn't include any anarchists though.

 

[The Real]

how many countries are gonna fail before people realize marxism is a dead end?

lol @ real marxism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Nah, it's not a No True Scotsman. Name a single attempt at Marxism in history that actually mirrors Marx's description of it, which is a very simple standard by which to judge them. I don't think Marxism as Marx described it would work, but it has never actually been tried, and so never been judged on its own merits.

@The Real wheres that vote

Hard to say. I don't think the long-term prospects for Keynesianism are good, though that's not to discredit it right now. I don't think orthodox Marxism will work. I'm also clearly not a free market-type.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Tbh I dont see h

So I think most people voting for Marx aren't necessarily communists, they just think capitalism is growing more and more unsustainable, and the inevitability of a new paradigm rising from its ashes in the future. But you can ask them instead of making shallow, bloviating statements.

This would be one reason i was thinking to click Marx, because I generally agree. Just because Capitalism has not been replaced with anything better yet doesn't mean it's an ideal, and i think guys like @Blackking and @Serious selected him for that reason. I couldn't figure out wtf the homie @Domingo Halliburton was trying to say in here though i thought he would pick Keynes or Friedman.

Hayek is as much of a pie in the sky ideal as Marx is.