‘Why am I paying for their time?’: Doctor caught using ChatGPT has everyone arguing

[Weaver31]

Just the question here is potential bad habits. Cutting corners. Human nature is to do as little as you can.

Yeah folks say they wanna be efficient as possible and lil cheat....well not cheat but time saving tools like this help

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

On one hand, ChatGPT can make things quicker and help doctors keep track of tons of info, but on the other hand, if you're paying for a doctor's time, you expect that personal touch, not just a bot running the show.

There’s a possibility the doctor had a course of action ready to go and checked to determine if there was something he wasn’t accounting for. At that point he went forward with the best bet in his professional opinion

 

[Dameon Farrow]

Yet if you saw him using Google you wouldn't bat an eye. More proof the public is clueless about AI and how it actually works. AI can't look at your symptoms and diagnose you. It can't tell if you need a specialist. If you do need one it can't recommend one it knows personally.

ChatGPT(and its cousins) are simply web scraping tools with an engine behind them that can take care of certain tasks based on the info it has access too! Guess what? That info has the potential to be wrong! Anything coming out of it needs to be vetted.

 

[High Art]

i can't wait for ai to swallow the entire medical industry.

https://archive.ph/xOftr

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i recently saw a post about how microsoft's ai was 4x more effective than human doctors. after having used ai extensively, i can say that even in its current state it has helped me more than most doctors ever have.

i personally can't wait until i can get a diagnosis and a prescription or procedure done in a fully automated fashion by an entity who is only there to help me.

i recently saw a specialist who wouldn't even entertain the idea of giving me surgery. instead he tried to rush the appointment i drove to another city and waited months for. he quickly handed me a prescription with very bad side effects which doesn't resolve the underlying issue (which was found via several ultrasounds and confirmed by my family doctor).

i don't want to see a doctor with terrible bedside manor. i don't want to hope that they woke up on the right side of the bed today. i don't want to stroke anyones ego just to get what i need. i don't want to deal with awful receptionists who turn their answering machines off because rude people have destroyed their personalities. i don't want to wait months for another 2 minute appointment. i don't want to pray that my diagnosis and treatments were actually accurate.

i know this will take a long time and i'll probably be dead by then, but every day i long for true singularity and a utopia that will probably never happen because people think ai should be used to make racist tiktok videos instead of curing cancer.

I don't think AI will fully replace doctors but it will force them to change their focus and how they operate. It will hopefully force them to better adopt better bedside manner, which is an issue for some. The problem, as show in the quotes in the bottom, is that people are focusing on doctors being sources of information and being walking talking medical encylopedias instead of someone who brings together information and synthesizes treatment plans because not all treatment plans are the same. In any case, er complaints are due to a system where being good at exams is treated as the measuring stick as opposed to a balance of bedside manner and competence. I doubt medicine will change to match the needs and demands of patients. It can barely fix the issues it already has so how does one expect it to fix new issues arising? Too many of the people in charge have their heads up their asses.

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This is funny because this is how we ended up with doctors with such poor bedside manner. Focusing having those that are good at reciting information and essentially being robots is why so many of them come across as inflexible. These people are shooting themselves viewing it from this perspective. In each instance, they seem upset that the doctor didn't listen to them and seem to think it was due to a lack of knowledge when in fact, it was due to a personality issue or an issue of bedside manner that pushed the doctor to act as he or she did. The doctor, most likely, was adhering to the general cascade of diagnosis. People should understand that medicine is not like it is on TV and there is a process, with their insurance partly to blame. It's why they get sent for an x-ray first before a CT since insurance won't pay for the CT unless an x-ray is done. There is a process and if the doctor has decent enough bedside manner, he or she can explain this (assuming the patient has the wherewithal to listen).

The other issue I have with this is some patients will want some information but it is completely useless and in using to gauge a doctor, all their doing is setting themselves up for a hard time. That or they are asking for information that in itself may prove useless to them and is just making them steer in the wrong direction. All too often, these web and AI sources tend to settle on the worst or most urgent possibility, most likely for legal reasons. An example of this was a patient in one of my clinics that came in swearing up and down they had subarachnoid hemorrhage. To me and the other doctors it was obvious it wasn't but he swore up and down and was convinced he was going to die. We did some imaging and sure enough, it wasn't. Instead, it was sinusitis made worse by his excessive use of baby powder.

In any case, patients will claim they want someone with good bedside manner and all that but that would require some sacrifice from them as well - they'd have to understand that it will take longer to see them and other people, thus increasing wait times. The manner in which we question them would change as well, being more circuitous in manner akin to that of a police investigator to make sure we catch everything and to make sure you're not lying. Healthcare is in for a rough time because I feel like people on both sides are not prepared for what follows. Some of us who are, are going to make bank though.

 

[DEAD7]

Everyone uses ChatGPT to help with their job in 2025.