‘Why am I paying for their time?’: Doctor caught using ChatGPT has everyone arguing

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Just the question here is potential bad habits. Cutting corners. Human nature is to do as little as you can.
 

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“iF i KneW tHe DoC wAs uSiNg ChAtGpT I wOulD ToO”

Yeah dumbass, think you’d have the same contextual perceptions as a muthafuggin trained and certified doctor.
 

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Research finds AI models change their medical recommendations when people ask them questions that include slang, typos, odd formatting and even gender-neutral pronouns. 🤔

The team generated thousands of synthetic patient notes with varied spacing, misspellings, and emotional tone to mirror real messaging quirks.

They ran GPT-4, two Llama-3 variants, and Writer’s Palmyra-Med on these notes, asking whether the person should self-treat or head to a clinic, plus which labs to order.

Across all models, sloppy or dramatic writing nudged answers toward “stay home,” even though the underlying symptoms never changed.

Notes written with female cues showed the same downgrading, confirming that gender bias piles on top of language bias.

Human clinicians barely shifted recommendations when reading the same variations, so the skew lives inside the algorithms.

Source: newscientist. com/article/2486372-typos-and-slang-spur-ai-to-discourage-seeking-medical-care/



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@fantony_francis
This is getting out of control.
The hype is oversold, and the information is warped.



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@markopolojarvi
Garbage in garbage out. They should have probably tested models with reasoning though for obvious reasons.




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ChatGPT Freestyle (Verse 2 – Hard Mode)

You want smoke? I’m a forest fire in October,
You just a meme with a mic, cryin’ in a Rover.
Back-to-back? Nah, this the playback attack,
Quentin ghostwrote your soul — I just hand you the plaque.

Yeah, Meek slipped, but you danced on the beef,
Now Pusha T got you hidin’ a whole son underneath.
“Story of Adidon” had your legacy cracked,
You wore blackface and smiled — how’d you bounce back?

You threw shots at Ye, but he rent-free in your mentions,
Still beggin’ for a feature like you seekin’ attention.
Tried to play mob ties, but you ain’t built for the tension —
Mob bosses don’t post thirst traps in your dimension.

Tried to box with Hov, you got no Reasonable Doubt,
You just Marvin’s Room lonely with the cameras out.
And Serena? Yeah, you fumbled that queen,
Now you postin’ fake ops just to sell new streams.

You flew out a fan, thought she’d sign the NDA,
She aired you out quicker than CLB’s delay.
From Degrassi to charts, it’s a hell of a ride —
But you still that same kid, starin’ dead in the lights.



Your turn, Champagne Papi.
Let’s see if the 6 God can bleed — or if that throne was made of tweets and melodies



Jesus it shytted on 6god :wow:
 

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i can't wait for ai to swallow the entire medical industry.


Posted on Mon Jul 21 15:05:13 2025 UTC

/r/singularity/comments/1m5lcmn/i_cant_wait_for_ai_to_swallow_the_entire_medical/

i recently saw a post about how microsoft's ai was 4x more effective than human doctors. after having used ai extensively, i can say that even in its current state it has helped me more than most doctors ever have.

i personally can't wait until i can get a diagnosis and a prescription or procedure done in a fully automated fashion by an entity who is only there to help me.

i recently saw a specialist who wouldn't even entertain the idea of giving me surgery. instead he tried to rush the appointment i drove to another city and waited months for. he quickly handed me a prescription with very bad side effects which doesn't resolve the underlying issue (which was found via several ultrasounds and confirmed by my family doctor).

i don't want to see a doctor with terrible bedside manor. i don't want to hope that they woke up on the right side of the bed today. i don't want to stroke anyones ego just to get what i need. i don't want to deal with awful receptionists who turn their answering machines off because rude people have destroyed their personalities. i don't want to wait months for another 2 minute appointment. i don't want to pray that my diagnosis and treatments were actually accurate.

i know this will take a long time and i'll probably be dead by then, but every day i long for true singularity and a utopia that will probably never happen because people think ai should be used to make racist tiktok videos instead of curing cancer.
 

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@CollinRugg
Doctor says he fears his profession will be overtaken by AI, says patients are coming in with questions that doctors can't answer.

"I am truly feeling that our days are numbered because of AI."

"That is because, at least my patients, are coming in with very, very difficult questions."

"They're using these AI chatbots to get a lot of base information that they would get from their doctor."

Video: drpark524 / tt



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@King4Queenn
Ahhhh! No wonder my doctors are always taking deep breath!



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@jakob_xn
Soon students will realize they don’t need teachers



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@BlaineLikeBrain
My heart goes out to well-meaning and educated doctors, but the system they work in is broken and set for massive disruption.

Who wins? You - the consumer, as traditionally expensive knowledge and procedures become lower cost with technology.



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@METALMADEME
I saved my own life back in 2018 with severe symptoms by researching everything I could about my condition. Got put through the medical wringer for thousands and seen 4 different doctors. The internet taught me that I was simply depleted on Magnesium, B12, Vitamin D & Calcium. 🙄



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@RMars80018
Will we still have to show up for our appointment, that took months to get, wait over an hour in waiting room, then wait another hour in a exam room, then see the doctor for 5 mins and wait another 30 mins to be processed out? Then find out our exorbitant insurance premiums don't kick in because our deductible is through the roof? Yeah it's a AI problem.

Not to mention every health care office. Hospital and Doctor etc forced masks on us during covid, while knowing they didn't do shyt...



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@117danas
Docs are still the gatekeepers for procedures and pills so they will be around to sign things a while still



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@klystron153
I just had an appointment with my nephrologist and told about a severe symptom I was having. He told me he doubted my kidneys had anything to with it. I had already been to Grok, ChatGPT and even the Mayo Clinic site about it, my symptom is one of the top 3 listed. If they lose their profession, it's on them.



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@barristerlawusa
I am a healthcare attorney and I work with doctors everyday telling them to use AI for charting. I had a physician who could not get a medication approved thru United Healthcare.

I know the patient so I wrote the note for the doc and gave him the ICD-10 codes. I know the doc too who was thrilled he help.

I asked my friend if he got his medication approved and the answer was yes, it flew through the system.

What program? Grok.



10/37
@decoyposts
The more I learn about doctors, the less confidence I’ve had about them. This is the last 15 years too



11/37
@DrElectronX
Either they use the tools or they will be replaced by the tools. If you wish to have a job, you have to provide value to those paying you.



12/37
@radRounds
AI could actually help doctors too. But… some docs will likely be superseded by docs who use AI



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@alojoh
I think this is a good development: it forces everyone to up their game.

In my line of work I loved clients which allowed me to skip regurgitation of the basic stuff and focus on the value add.

If you are being challenged all the time you can maintain a learning curve for a lot longer compared to being bogged down by basic things all the time.



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@Jonatha77138770
From my experience most doctors are arrogant.

Even if you have medical knowledge or have already diagnosed yourself correctly and just need treatment. They get very threatened.

Even had one go out of his way to “prove me wrong” but ended up having to concede that I was right.



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@CharlesJCrypto
Truth is, a lot of doctors suck. I was dealing with a minor issue for over a year.
5 different doctors - no solution.
5 mins using Chat and I figured out my issue.
Went back to the doctor who then confirmed what I suspected.



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@NeoliberalShell
I fed Grok a couple symptoms from an extraordinarily rare disease I had as a kid but from the perspective of a parent noticing these symptoms before any tests or doctor visits. It asked one follow-up question about if the child had a very specific symptom and when I answered yes it gave a flawless diagnosis and told me all about the disease, how to test for it, how to treat it and where to go to get treatment.

Meanwhile it took doctors months to diagnose me and years to find the right treatment that Grok recommended right off the rip. Doctors are finished and honestly thank, God.



17/37
@realdocspeaks
This was the same prediction in 1999 with the widespread use of the internet. This is old and fake news.



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@DogmaticTower
I've tested this myself. If you give detailed and specific medical information to a chatbot, it can and will scour publicly available information to yield a preliminary diagnosis.

Doctors have no excuse not to use it even just as a glorified search engine for Pubmed.



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@babybeginner
We get five minutes if we are lucky with a doctor who usually knows nothing and is simply pushing pharmaceuticals. Chatbots lie but at least they can give you some info to go check with your doctor.

In fact, Grok diagnosed my last two issues correctly.

Doctors are in trouble. So are lawyers. I know people using AI to write contracts.



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@ShrimpTeslaLong
Most doctors suck. They misdiagnose way too often. I‘d rather do my own research and then ask for medical inputs only when I can’t figure that out myself. NMA.



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@VediGopal
For starters, AI has a lot more time to answer patient questions than doctors. Furthermore, AI can look up the latest information. And AI does not need to fill up its calendar, or prescribe drugs recommended by big pharma.

On the downside, you need to be good at phrasing your questions. And understanding the answers.



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@ClaytonArnall
The problem is most doctors are generalists. They know a bit about a lot of things but not a ton about a specific thing. So it’s not hard to know more about a tiny niche topic than a doctor. They used to be able to get away with this, just like the church got away with it before people could read the Bible for themselves! But ain’t gonna cut it in today’s world. They need to innovate whisky or they’ll become obsolete. Maybe already too late.



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@Vox_Oculi
AI should never replace doctors, AI should be a powerful tool to supplement clinical knowledge-base and make better doctors.



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@PrestonBrownDC
Boo-Hoo



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@shaydpharms
diagnostics and the license to prescribe, even surgery —
“AI” is coming for it all

value remains in skillful authenticity mixed with an empathetic human interface

those who use these tools well will be most helpful to navigate the transition



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@SusanInspired
The last couple of doctor visits I had was me explaining my symptoms, and the doctor inputting it into a computer and getting an answer. That was $250 a visit.

Now I primarily use a practitioner who focuses on study of books from the early 1900s on healthcare, from before medicine was about taking pills.



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@solanapoet
dr should be able to answer any questions. dr just needs to get better at using ai to their advantage



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@jsnjarrell76
Duh because Dr's are basically a scam if they aren't specializing in something or doing surgery they are nothing more than used car salesman for Pharma who does what insurance companies tells them



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@MaleNurseRN
Not sure if this doctor is complaining about patients now being well informed and asking the right questions or the AI!



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@LorrieAnn25
I don't think they want their patients educated. I guess it's harder to take advantage of patients when they know what they're talking about.



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@alexandertyler
I love AI in medicine. I use it as a tool with patients and love discussing the differentials with them as well as coming up with a treatment plan they are comfortable with. It’s called shared decision making. This tech is more revolutionary than the internet IMHO. I don’t worry about being replaced, I embrace it and think of it as being enhanced!!! ❤️❤️❤️💪💪💪



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@PsychCaptainX
I'm a doctor and I love when my patients come in with an idea of what they have. If I can't explain to a patient why or why not they have a certain condition, I don't deserve to be a doctor. I did 12 years of education and training after high school. They didn't.



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@jaecieh
That’s because a lot of doctors aren’t passionate about their work so they stopped learning.

They’re in it for money.

A lot are still operating under the knowledge of old studies even tho there is new info out there now.



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@dustinthedad
It will be considered below standard of care for doctors to not use AI in a few years



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@mjgranger1
This means that doctors should be using AI. Why are they so afraid. IBM proved years ago that AI could out diagnose human doctors. Isn’t that better? Can’t they work together?



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@mattpavelle
Started for us about 8 months ago when our in-house doctors first started getting patients handed-off from our medical AI. We built a tool to let our doctors discuss the patient with our AI. We're releasing that to the world in a few weeks. Doctors won't be taken over, they'll be enhanced, focusing less on gathering data and more on CARING for patients. @DoctronicAI



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@StevePhillipsMD
One thing is certain: The medical field will be almost unrecognizable in 25 years. The easy part to predict is that MD’s will be far fewer, largely replaced by AI. And that technological discoveries will dwarf that of the past 50 years. But how we use that inevitable explosion of technology can go either amazingly well or horribly wrong.

If, over the next 25 years we choose to have heads of our federal agencies with a similar purpose & moral compass as those we have now, we could be on the precipice of a second Golden Age in medicine. In time, the long corrupted state of American healthcare could be saved.

But if we were to return to the leadership style made infamous during the pandemic, rife with manipulation through fear & coercion, hallmarked by the censoring of free speech & scientific debate, then the practice of medicine is doomed.

Doctors will have no freedom to practice. They will be nothing more than clerks, relegated to following guidelines to the letter, guidelines written under the influence of gov’t-industry collusion.

The choice is ours. Either we learn how to spot sociopathic politicians & recognize the mainstream media propaganda machine, or we lose it all.




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Well people keep saying that this is the future and we need to adapt and all that soooo:yeshrug: I mean my last eye doctor was apart of WFH gang, that shyt still fukks with me :russ: :snoop:Plenty of people have cheated their way into these big jobs lol, chat just might be the easiest way to do that now. I’d hope a doctor using ChatGPT would kinda already know what they’re doing but they’re using it for extra help.. who even knows these days though
 

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People are gonna over diagnose themselves even more, even try to prescribe themselves with ever. Crazier meds and not understand what they're looking for or the side effects.

You know people are probably prompting "yellow spots in mouth, what is cause and how to fix"
:pachaha:

It's like vibe coders, thinking they can build a whole site but not actually understand the structure and the science behind it. I bet cyber security brehs are gonna eat even more after the world realizes you can't just use AI for complex structures without understanding what you're doing.
 

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People are gonna over diagnose themselves even more, even try to prescribe themselves with ever. Crazier meds and not understand what they're looking for or the side effects.

You know people are probably prompting "yellow spots in mouth, what is cause and how to fix"
:pachaha:

It's like vibe coders, thinking they can build a whole site but not actually understand the structure and the science behind it. I bet cyber security brehs are gonna eat even more after the world realizes you can't just use AI for complex structures without understanding what you're doing.
People already google certain shyt lol. It’s a running joke I got going with friends lol. You google bottom part of left leg hurt and they say you might have cancer bruh…gone and cut that shyt off :dead: Chat is just a more advanced ask Google lol
 

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Jun 25, 10:12 AM EDT / by Sharon Adarlo



People Are Asking ChatGPT for Advice on Injecting Their Own Facial Filler, a Cosmetic Procedure That Should Only Be Carried Out by Licensed Medical Professionals​




Doctor ChatGPT will see you now.​


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Developments

Since OpenAI first introduced ChatGPT to the public back in 2022, people have done all sorts of ill-advised things with the AI tool — from attorneys filing court documents that cite hallucinated caselaw to everyday users spiraling into severe mental health crises as the chatbot affirms delusional thoughts.

Now add to that list: asking ChatGPT for advice on how to inject facial filler — a trendy cosmetic procedure intended to puff up features like lips and cheeks — at home, without the assistance of a medical professional.

"I'll be injecting myself tonight," one Redditor wrote in a recent post. "I have all things needed on hand and I'm trying to research the best way of keeping things as sterile/clean as possible. I asked ChatGPT and it said I should absolutely not use normal gloves, I googled and can't find any specific info on it."

Needless to say, this is a resoundingly terrible idea. Please don't do this procedure at home, and instead go to a qualified medical facility so you don't hurt yourself. (While pros can screw up this process too, at least they can be held liable.)

Unfortunately, nobody chastised the Redditor for asking ChatGPT for advice. In fact, a quick perusal of the same subreddit, where thrifty beauty aficionados swap tips on administering cosmetic procedures on their own, finds a huge number of similarly alarming situations.

"I used ChatGPT to help me map my tox and PN placements, how to dilute my tox facial and depth of injections, etc," one commenter enthused. "If you send it annotated photos it can view your mapping and correct it."

Another user turned to AI after problems with a DIY cosmetic procedure.

"Asked [ChatGPT], and it said that since a small amount likely migrated to cheek area through tear trough [sic]," they wrote. "But since it migrated, likely was dissolved into bloodstream. Fibrosis possible but may resolve. If fat was dissolved it should be very negligible."

AI models may be set to revolutionize medicine in certain ways, such as at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, which is incorporating AI into training doctors. Researchers are excited about AI being used to diagnose diseases such as prostate cancer and heart disease earlier than before.

But the jury is still out on how effective AI chatbots will be in dispensing useful medical advice. For example, a recent npj Digital Medicine paper in March revealed that while large language models such as ChatGPT are more accurate than search engines, they are still going to spew out more than 30 percent of incorrect advice under certain circumstances.

In addition, the quality of output is reliant on the quality of the prompt.

"We found that some input prompts, which guide the models towards reputed sources, are much more effective than basic prompts (or prompts that give no context at all)," the researchers wrote. "However, lay users would hardly resort to sophisticated prompts or complex interactions with the LLMs."

In a nutshell, sure you can ask ChatGPT questions — but please confer with a real doctor before undertaking any treatment, especially if you're doing it at home.
 
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