Why Americans suck at soccer (well, the men)

IllmaticDelta

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Soccer dominated by non American cacs and foreign blacks. the USA whole team white.

Blacks can't afford soccer in America it's cost too much.

Just like nascar golf tennis etc.

It's that simple.

it's not really that, it's just that black americans have no interest in playing that sport

yeah? I thought soccer was like the cheapest sport.....

basic soccer playing as in easy to play/easy to make bootleg goals, makes it a cheap game to play which played a part in it becoming popular in 3rd world places but soccer leagues in america are expensive. A post from another board hits it right on the mark

Played soccer for a long long time.

What he is referring to is the traveling & time investment (year-round) required by the institutionalized US system. Serious competitive club teams must both practice weekly & compete in tournaments usually 2-3 times a month. These tournaments are held all throughout the country. When I played I traveled to literally every state on the eastern half of the country; Detroit, Kansas City, Orlando, Atlanta, Maine, even on the national mall in DC.

On top of that there are league costs both indoor and outdoor, coach/management fees, the works. Soccer is expensive because its not as popular, the US is a pretty spread-out country, and you need to constantly travel long distances to compete (compared to the relatively densely populated Europe and S.A. cities, like Mexico City for example).

Ironically, the reason the US is inferior to most countries' soccer talent is precisely because soccer itself is not expensive at all, it's a cheap game to play - as you mentioned, you only need a makeshift ball and some sort of goal. Thus it is a perfect game for children in third world countries. To those kids it's practically the only option for sports - they dont have basketball hoops in their driveways, garages full of bats/balls/gloves/sticks, etc.

https://247sports.com/college/syrac...Why-is-soccer-so-expensive-in-the-US-53920580

also

It’s only working for the white kids': American soccer's diversity problem

As Doug Andreassen, the chairman of US Soccer’s diversity task force, looks across the game he loves, all he can see is a system broken in America. And he wonders why nobody seems to care.

He sees well-to-do families spending thousands of dollars a year on soccer clubs that propel their children to the sport’s highest levels, while thousands of gifted athletes in mostly African American and Latino neighborhoods get left behind. He worries about this inequity. Soccer is the world’s great democratic game, whose best stars have come from the world’s slums, ghettos and favelas. And yet in the US the path to the top is often determined by how many zeroes a parent can write in their checkbook.

Andreassen watches his federation’s national teams play, and wishes they had more diversity. Like many, he can’t ignore the fact that last year’s Women’s World Cup winners were almost all white, or that several of the non-white players on the US Copa America roster grew up overseas. The talents of some of America’s best young players are being suffocated by a process that never lets them be seen. He sighs.

“People don’t want to talk about it,” he says.

Andreassen used to dance gingerly around the topic, using the same careful code words as the other coaches and heads of leagues, trying not to push or offend only to find that little changed. He has stopped being political. He is frustrated. He is passionate. He is blunt.

“The system is not working for the underserved community,” he says. “It’s working for the white kids.”

But why? How come soccer can’t be more like basketball in America? How come athletes from the country’s huge urban areas aren’t embracing a sport that requires nothing but a ball to play? How have our national soccer teams not found a way to exploit what should be a huge pool of talent?

“We used to say to ourselves: ‘How good would we be if we could just get the kids in the cities,’” one former US official says.

There are a lot of reasons for this disparity, but mostly everything comes down to perception and economics. “It continues to be seen as a white, suburban sport” says Briana Scurry, who won the Women’s World Cup in 1999 with the US, and was arguably the country’s most prominent black female player.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/jun/01/us-soccer-diversity-problem-world-football
 

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I don't even like America and shyt, but some of you football nazi's are lacking in the brain department you ask why "Americans suck at football/soccer"? It's simple there's not much fukking interest, it's a damn niche sport at best there's no damn reason to invest in so much money on the sport when the big wigs won't get a great return. Secondly, it's a culture thing football/soccer ain't engrained in the mind of the average American unlike other countries. Lastly, the dudes that are saying "nowhere in the world likes American football" are damn liars, American Football has a niche market in Europe, especially in the U.K. why else would the NFL host 1-4 games in a year in England.
 

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USMNT needs to emphasize the sport at the lower levels -- and among minorities, yes.

A lot of these kids who think they're going to be the next Lebron James need to get a grip on reality. Most of them will not be 6'8. And they're competing for an extremely competitive roster spot in the NBA where there are fewer positions available as it is.

MLS is growing and there's optimism that it could lead to more talent development. But the best athletes are always going to come from the bottom.
As an aside, I thought Jurgen Klinsmann should have had Sunil Gulati's job (now Carlos Cordeiro's) and not been the USMNT coach. He's a big picture guy. He would have been better handling things on a macro level.
US Soccer also needs a minority superstar because (fairly or not) that goes a long way toward getting kids interested in the sport.

Let's face it. People wanted to be like Mike. Like Iverson. Like Bo. Whatever you want to call it, whether it be something as politically incorrect as saying minorities are cooler, or have more swagger, or you name it...those types of guys had a certain level of gravity.
Nobody gives a shyt about Landon Donovan -- great as he was.
 

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I don't even like America and shyt, but some of you football nazi's are lacking in the brain department you ask why "Americans suck at football/soccer"? It's simple there's not much fukking interest, it's a damn niche sport at best there's no damn reason to invest in so much money on the sport when the big wigs won't get a great return. Secondly, it's a culture thing football/soccer ain't engrained in the mind of the average American unlike other countries. Lastly, the dudes that are saying "nowhere in the world likes American football" are damn liars, American Football has a niche market in Europe, especially in the U.K. why else would the NFL host 1-4 games in a year in England.
@#1 pick this guy must live under a rock. Because soccer is getting bigger and bigger in America. Especially metropolitan areas like LA and ATL.

Heck even small cities like Portland have huge fan bases with die hard followings. The wave is about a few more years away from being real big. Events like the world cup only increase the stage.
 

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@#1 pick this guy must live under a rock. Because soccer is getting bigger and bigger in America. Especially metropolitan areas like LA and ATL.

Heck even small cities like Portland have huge fan bases that die hard fans. The wave is about a few more years away from being real big. Events like the world cup only increase the stage.
It's still a niche sport ya dummy, you telling me that Football/Soccer in the U.S. can currently compete with B-ball or American Football.
 

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It's still a niche sport ya dummy, you telling me that Football/Soccer in the U.S. can currently compete with B-ball or American Football.
MLS has 23 teams with 3 more scheduled to be added in the next 2 years.

That's niche to you?
 

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Compared to the other major sports it's still a niche. What's the TV or streaming viewership numbers looking like currently in the U.S. compared to the other sports?
I don't think you understand what "niche" means.

If your baseline is going to be that it has to have NFL viewership, well fukk it then. Hockey is a "niche sport"
 

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@#1 pick this guy must live under a rock. Because soccer is getting bigger and bigger in America. Especially metropolitan areas like LA and ATL.

Heck even small cities like Portland have huge fan bases with die hard followings. The wave is about a few more years away from being real big. Events like the world cup only increase the stage.

It's still niche even when compared to the NHL

NHL 2017/2018 TV ratings

^^read around in that thread for ratings
 

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I think if you want soccer to really catch on here. You need two things.

1.A legit American born superstar. Someone who doesnt follow soccer will recognize.

2. Secondly alot of people think the MLS is second rate soccer compared to Europe leagues. Like the CFL to NFL.
 
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