Why and when did LL Cool J fall off?

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LL raising hell but, that didn't last...

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Kinda wild he said this in 95 before Mr Smith dropped and that was arguably his biggest commercial album (or at least how I remember the singles being everywhere)
 

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After goat album
Singles on 12 were cool though too
 

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I was around for his beginning.. and to say Moe Dee vs LL was Old vs new is kinda wrong they were only 5 yrs apart in age and maybe 4yrs career wise. Moe Dee made a name beatng bum ass Busy. Thats 81. LL was 84-85.

LL didnt just fuhking fall off. What, HeadSprung was 2004 I think?? Think that album went Gold???

it was a natural progression of it just not being his time past that. Dont bring up Kane and Rap. Kane career was basically trash after album 2. G Rap is G Rap, but he wasnt a factor on anything related to LL. NOTHING


4 years in rap years is like 20 years breh, especially back in the 80's. Let's Go was released in 89. This was part of Moe Dee making a resurgence, you are talking about Moe's 1st career. He is about the only MC from his era that was successful in L's era but he had to inject himself in to it. The reason why that was critical is because it wasnt a beef about money or bytches or gunplay, but about lyrics and Let's Go rallied the old school heads. Me and assuming you are close to my age are the children of the beginning of the new school which was led by LL.

I said LL didnt fall off at all, he simply just phased out but part of that had to do with acting, poor direction on his albums and basically his claim to fame was lyrics and other MC's caught up to him overnight.

to say dont bring up Kane and G. Rap :dahell: are you serious? It doesnt matter about how good their albums were, this wasnt about sales, this wasnt about brand, this was about the ushering in lyricism that the game hadnt seen outside of Rakim. By the time those guys got going, there was no point for me to rotation any current or new LL....it was a wrap. 4, 3, 2, 1 was his last great stand as a lyricist.

His time ran its course but that is not to say he couldnt have stayed at a higher level for longer than what he did because he certainly could have but with everything he was doing I just thought it was hard for him in particular to continue to make great music, plus they said he didnt even want to be on the label anymore then started beefing with them later.
 

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The thought that.... even when the shyt was out and the singles were dropping.... the thought that LL Cool J dropped something like Mr. Smith was fukking crazy.


Hey lover dropped, had nikkas madder than a motherfukker. "if his love real he gotta handle competition. ANd you only knew him 5 months. Plus he drink too much. And smoke too many blunts. And I be working out every day, thinking bout you. :youngsabo:"


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Loungin remix..... I don't care if you ain't heard it in years. Play that shyt when the sun going down and you about to go out somewhere. God forbid your girl doing makeup in the mirror with the bathroom door open. I damn near teared up just thinking about it.

I Shot Ya remix.... These rappers coming on and burning the shyt up.... then LL coming on and talking shyt to the nikkas he on the track with :whew:


Like damn.... this old nikka really dropped an album like this and he came out in like 1985!?




then.... I remember him collecting some award and looking coked up.... No, I don't remember which one is was. he had a white escort looking broad on either side of him. Not no famous broads. He gave some wack, rambling speech and at the end he was like ":bryan: PHENOMENON! PHENOMENON!!!!! :bryan:" for no reason at all. Whole audience did this awkward golf clap.



Phenomenon single dropped a few months after. shyt was wack. It went platinum, yeah. But what didn't go gold or platinum back then? It was a wrap.

They never shoulda tried to repackage a HUGELY successful repackage.

He never recovered.
That Mr. Smith era he honestly could have done no wrong. nikka had soundtrack songs he dropped that were fire (papa luv it, ain't nobody for example). His collabs were on point.
 

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the goat album is a classic album damn near aside from a few wack records. LL would body your fave record truthfully nikkas lerned to keep ll name out they mouth and to stop pissing him off then he faded away to that swat show and got a new six pack, lol.
 

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its crazy how LL gets punished for releasing bad albums in the twilight of his career, but nobody is dropping jay-z, nas and all these other rappers that have put out tons of bad music past their prime. hell, a lot of them put out wack chit in the midst of their glory years.

what its REALLY about is the lack of respect hip-hop fans have for history. people that don't rank LL, usually just aren't familiar with him like that.
 

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However, NCIS: Los Angeles is his bread and butter, and he's well-paid for playing Sam Hanna on the show. He makes $150,000 per episode, according to Bankrate, which comes out to $3.6 million for a 24-episode season.
 
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