Why and when did LL Cool J fall off?

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Idk but that GOAT album has a lot of misses but the highs are so fire on there. I bump the intro and where I belong once every few months. I remember the preview of the album that was at the end of the nutty professor 2 soundtrack had me super excited for the album.
 

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mr smith was ll's last great album for real..but i havent fukked with an ll song since 4321

No, GOAT was the last great album and he should have stopped at that. GOAT should be his last album for his retirement.
 

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The thought that.... even when the shyt was out and the singles were dropping.... the thought that LL Cool J dropped something like Mr. Smith was fukking crazy.


Hey lover dropped, had nikkas madder than a motherfukker. "if his love real he gotta handle competition. ANd you only knew him 5 months. Plus he drink too much. And smoke too many blunts. And I be working out every day, thinking bout you. :youngsabo:"


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Loungin remix..... I don't care if you ain't heard it in years. Play that shyt when the sun going down and you about to go out somewhere. God forbid your girl doing makeup in the mirror with the bathroom door open. I damn near teared up just thinking about it.

I Shot Ya remix.... These rappers coming on and burning the shyt up.... then LL coming on and talking shyt to the nikkas he on the track with :whew:


Like damn.... this old nikka really dropped an album like this and he came out in like 1985!?




then.... I remember him collecting some award and looking coked up.... No, I don't remember which one is was. he had a white escort looking broad on either side of him. Not no famous broads. He gave some wack, rambling speech and at the end he was like ":bryan: PHENOMENON! PHENOMENON!!!!! :bryan:" for no reason at all. Whole audience did this awkward golf clap.



Phenomenon single dropped a few months after. shyt was wack. It went platinum, yeah. But what didn't go gold or platinum back then? It was a wrap.

They never shoulda tried to repackage a HUGELY successful repackage.

He never recovered.
Loungin remix is literally the first song I ever remember hearing in my life. 4 years old, '96 Redhook reunion, that shyt was BLASTING. I remember it vividly. GOAT cookout song.
 

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If im not mistaken his last def jam album was 2008 not sure what his deal was back then.
I mean imagine, dude been on Def Jam since 85'.

Back then, the typical agreement was 7-10 options.

He did 12.

I know there was more than likely some restructuring going on.

Not to mention Russ selling off Def Jam and regulating himself to the board.

23 years on a label is a stretch for any artist past or present.
 

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The "Walking with a Panther" album was the beginning of the fall off.

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for me it was 4,3,2,1

That track was everything first time I saw DMX i was glued to the screen like yo....then canibus killed it ....I was like LL is the man then he also had his show that was dope.....

but when that shyt happened with canibus that's when i stopped really fukking with him that was some real hoe shyt....

after 2nd rd. knockout i never checked for LL since
 

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his last single "Take It" was good with Joe. It was classic LL.

He just prob lost interest in this current era. He could prob still release good songs, but they wouldnt be received well and his ego would take a hit.

Might as well make money acting.

Same thing with Common now.
 
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