Why are black men abandoning God?

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I'm asking you because you work in a lab. I'm looking for a scientific answer. instead as usual all anyone gets are puns and redirects.

I know what erosion is but the evidence doesn't fit. Do you choose not to look deeper?

How can red blood cells survive from a t-rex for millions of years? Does that not make you wonder?
evidence of cells isn't the actual cells.

why are you so dumb?
 

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Im open to anything but let me ask you this why would god go out of his way to be so mysterious wouldn't he want to remove all doubt of his existence?

Who said that God is going out of his way? That's what people think when they feel they haven't experienced , seen, or can't prove the existence of God. But even if you can't prove God that doesn't mean that God has went out of his way to not be seen.

We just discovered last year that over 6K years ago Ancient Egyptians practiced mummification Much earlier than thought --- That information has always been there,, shyt wasn't buried deep or anything, we just didn't see it.............

Both Atheist and religious people would be foolish to make assumptions in attempting to understand the 'logic' of a creative force. Why would we assume that it would even be logical for God to 'remove all doubt'. Is it possible that the prophets of God where here for a reason? Or if you don't believe in prophets that maybe God has given us the ability to believe in a creator based on the fact that we haven't been shown any alternatives? It's it illogically to assume all matter and consciousness has come from inanimate matter randomly - when we have no base of that that EVER happening ( but we have an infinite number of examples of life creating life)?

I don't believe God is mysterious at all. Just like some may assume that Gravity is mysterious or the creation of the ancient pyramids is mysterious... when one is simply missing an understanding of what gives mass mass........ and the other is just idiots not realizing that nikkas just poured liquid int he sand when they moved them blocks.

in the 80s nikkas from my tribe were up on all that shyt because it was passed down for thousands of years Orally , but wasn't scientifically proven, not I'm 30 years old and it's a 'discovery'

Just like how its a so called mystery how the Dogon people know certain things about the stars.
 

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you really can't place false qualities on Gods back, especially if you don't believe in God. Atheist assume that because God isn't reveling himself in a way that would satisfy your narrow parameters and 'detection tools' that he may not exist. That is illogical.

Science, math , and logic doesn't negate God...... and a believe in a higher power doesn't lessen a humans capacity for math science or logic. As a matter of fact our disciplines of science and math were created by the very believers you refer to as 'idiots'. Most great men in history and many of the most intelligent are potential idiots according to you.
Damn near all the technologist on the planet believe in a higher power. Most mathematicians believe in a higher power and many claim that the math alone negates the possibility of a 'random' unconscious universe.

Also, logic is what proves a creator in the minds of most educated believers. We know for a FACT that life can create life and that consciousness and intelligence can produce the same. Science and logic both support and prove this position. Nothing AT ALL even begins to show that life or consciousness/intelligence can come from inanimate matter. Basic logic (based on what we've gathered in the last 200K years) demonstrates that it's MORE likely that the universe and all the consciousness in it- was intelligently created.


Why narrow our thoughts and minds when we don't understand more than 10% of the universe yet? Why not look into possibilities of other dimisions when most scientist are attempting to grasp and understanding of subatomic particles that just 15 years ago they would have laughed in their own faces if it was brought up. To even understand gravity, mass, and all matter science have to just 'accept' contradictions in their own theories on their path to understanding........ yet people like you can't accept that religious people may be OK with contradictions in their own theories. Religion and spirituality in general isn't meant to answer all the things you are Claiming it can't answer........... it's in place as a guide for living righteously, not as a new scientific method -- you clueless fukk.
Technologist? What the fukk is that?
Most mathematicians believe in a higher power? Can you prove that? Or are you just pulling things outta your ass like most religious folk?

Life can create life!!!! Omg what a revelation. However i'm going to, and never going to believe that a white guy in the sky made it all. ludicrous as fukk

If 15 years ago scientists laughed at others, it's because the data wasn't there. they did research and found out the science was solid. Then they stopped laughing. we don't just blindly accept things, we question them and probe them. something your religion does not allow at all. The church basically forbids all asking of any questions that challenge your faith.
And no, we do not allow contradictions in our theories. We disprove them or find out wh instead of blindly following what we're told.

Contradiction in what you believe in means that there's holes. There's flaws. There's lies. There's made up shyt. And you're ok with that, because the book you believe in is fake anyway.

I can live righteously without a goddamn book telling me how to. I can do good things and be kind to strangers and my neighbour without being TOLD TO.

You wanna call me a clueless fukk, but you're the one with 5 kids that rejects vaccines.
Work on your spelling. If you teach your kids the way you type... :mjlol:

edit: It's curious how every religious person thinks they're totally qualified to speak on how god thinks and acts.
 

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Atheist assume that because God isn't reveling himself in a way that would satisfy your narrow parameters and 'detection tools' that he may not exist. That is illogical.


God doesn't reveal himself in any way, that's the point.
Oh, but he did thousands of years ago...just not now when the technology can match the claims. :beli:

Mysterrrrrrrious ways!
 

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Technologist? What the fukk is that?
Most mathematicians believe in a higher power? Can you prove that? Or are you just pulling things outta your ass like most religious folk?

Life can create life!!!! Omg what a revelation. However i'm going to, and never going to believe that a white guy in the sky made it all. ludicrous as fukk

If 15 years ago scientists laughed at others, it's because the data wasn't there. they did research and found out the science was solid. Then they stopped laughing. we don't just blindly accept things, we question them and probe them. something your religion does not allow at all. The church basically forbids all asking of any questions that challenge your faith.
And no, we do not allow contradictions in our theories. We disprove them or find out wh instead of blindly following what we're told.

Contradiction in what you believe in means that there's holes. There's flaws. There's lies. There's made up shyt. And you're ok with that, because the book you believe in is fake anyway.

I can live righteously without a goddamn book telling me how to. I can do good things and be kind to strangers and my neighbour without being TOLD TO.

You wanna call me a clueless fukk, but you're the one with 5 kids that rejects vaccines.
Work on your spelling. If you teach your kids the way you type...

I don't teach spelling... I teach technology.

and this is an online forum, lol I can see the red lines under a misspelled word , purposefully not correct it and still not GAF. ... you can always tell who is feeling defeated in arguments when they resort to .... "umm fix your grammar:mjlol:

And you said scientist and then used the word 'We'... so you're a scientist now, lol. What type? :skip: The type that believes Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, and Issac Newton were all idiots and illogical :sas2:



I'm glad you made this post.:ehh:
On this note we can end the entire discussion. You've shown you have zero argument by grasping at all the straws you could think of :ufdup:

" white guy in the sky" " i can do good things without religion" etc etc and a bunch of bullshyt nobody implied that has Nothing to do with Anything that I said. . :comeon:

On top of an overload of logical fallacies.. you are assuming a bunch of shyt :mjlol:.......... you see friend, I'm not a Christian and i despise the Church, for the most part......... but everything I stated is 100% fact and your inferior mind simply couldn't handle it, hence the anger:yeshrug:
 

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God doesn't reveal himself in any way, that's the point.
Oh, but he did thousands of years ago...just not now when the technology can match the claims. :beli:

Mysterrrrrrrious ways!
it's not true that God doesn't reveal himself. It is true he doesn't do it in the way you think he should , which is the definition of illogical.

But even if he didn't.... if a creator existed and created the universes - would him not "revealing" himself negate the fact of that creation? ?

:francis:
 

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Im a pantheist so clearly I believe in god, maybe by not your definition but by mine.

Religion however, is just some straight up mickey mouse shyt, no one can defy gravity and walk on water, its about time you evolve and realize we dont subscribe to fairy tales anymore. Surely you cant still be reading a 2,000 year old book as fact, thats just absurd. Even 200 year old books are just about outdated, or proven to be mere basics.

get it tofukkinggether.
 

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Who said that God is going out of his way? That's what people think when they feel they haven't experienced , seen, or can't prove the existence of God. But even if you can't prove God that doesn't mean that God has went out of his way to not be seen.

We just discovered last year that over 6K years ago Ancient Egyptians practiced mummification Much earlier than thought --- That information has always been there,, shyt wasn't buried deep or anything, we just didn't see it.............

Both Atheist and religious people would be foolish to make assumptions in attempting to understand the 'logic' of a creative force. Why would we assume that it would even be logical for God to 'remove all doubt'. Is it possible that the prophets of God where here for a reason? Or if you don't believe in prophets that maybe God has given us the ability to believe in a creator based on the fact that we haven't been shown any alternatives? It's it illogically to assume all matter and consciousness has come from inanimate matter randomly - when we have no base of that that EVER happening ( but we have an infinite number of examples of life creating life)?

I don't believe God is mysterious at all. Just like some may assume that Gravity is mysterious or the creation of the ancient pyramids is mysterious... when one is simply missing an understanding of what gives mass mass........ and the other is just idiots not realizing that nikkas just poured liquid int he sand when they moved them blocks.

in the 80s nikkas from my tribe were up on all that shyt because it was passed down for thousands of years Orally , but wasn't scientifically proven, not I'm 30 years old and it's a 'discovery'

Just like how its a so called mystery how the Dogon people know certain things about the stars.
I don't agree with you to me he is mysterious especially if you go by most major religions where he wants us to worship him and follow his teachings but I respect your opinion.
 

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How does he reveal himself today? And please don't say something along the lines of "well, just look around."

if I don't present something that can be measured through the western scientific method then is peer reviewed you will foolishly discount it... So you let me know what would prove a reveal and I'll provide you with that.

peace. .
 

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if I don't present something that can be measured through the western scientific method then is peer reviewed you will foolishly discount it... So you let me know what would prove a reveal and I'll provide you with that.

peace. .

blah blah blah

How does God reveal himself in the 21st century?
 

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evidence of cells isn't the actual cells.

why are you so dumb?

Not evidence of the cells they actually have the red blood cells of a dinosaur. The same red blood cells that flow through your veins and arteries today. Again how can that be possible from millions of years ago......
 

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Where is the dirt that carved the great lakes :mjlol:

You want me to tell you were the dirt went from where a river carved out? :what:

Yo. You need to be slapped.

Yes I want your help in finding out where over 5 TRILLION yards of dirt went. It had to be there at one point.
 

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I don't teach spelling... I teach technology.

and this is an online forum, lol I can see the red lines under a misspelled word , purposefully not correct it and still not GAF. ... you can always tell who is feeling defeated in arguments when they resort to .... "umm fix your grammar:mjlol:

And you said scientist and then used the word 'We'... so you're a scientist now, lol. What type? :skip: The type that believes Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, and Issac Newton were all idiots and illogical :sas2:



I'm glad you made this post.:ehh:
On this note we can end the entire discussion. You've shown you have zero argument by grasping at all the straws you could think of :ufdup:

" white guy in the sky" " i can do good things without religion" etc etc and a bunch of bullshyt nobody implied that has Nothing to do with Anything that I said. . :comeon:

On top of an overload of logical fallacies.. you are assuming a bunch of shyt :mjlol:.......... you see friend, I'm not a Christian and i despise the Church, for the most part......... but everything I stated is 100% fact and your inferior mind simply couldn't handle it, hence the anger:yeshrug:

It appears you believe you have won. You say I grasp at straws.. and yet you commit the same fallacy.
I bid thee good day.
100% fact.. Ok then.
Sure :mjlol:
It's time to finally leave this thread
 
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