Why are men expected to provide and protect?

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What you all should be concerned with is why women are leaving relationships that don't provide. Let's not end up like Brazil right? The clock is ticking. People are trying to pit it on black men, why? We have to act.

The inheritance of black poverty: It’s all about the men

"The headline finding here is that, among those who grew up poor, black women are the only group showing a marked difference between the risk of being in the bottom quintile of the individual earnings distribution (for each gender), and the risk of being in the bottom quintile of the family incomedistribution (for the whole age cohort). Whites do well on both counts; black men do poorly on both counts. Black women do reasonably well on the first and very poorly on the second. This result is probably driven by the fact that black women tend to create families with black men who do poorly on both counts and thus bring down the family income results for black women."

Why are they focusing on this?
 

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With respect to my post, they aren't middle class. They're now rich. They started middle class, then upper middle class, now rich. But yea being middle class isn't enough for our kids to coast through life like others. We have to fight for our kids to prosper.
:jbhmm: Income- rich or asset rich? Debt ratio? You seen W2's? Investment portfolios? Are they funding their kids education? Giving them down payments?

We often look at financial markers, I need receipts. Respectfully. :hubie:
 

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Breh you can't tell me women are equal to men then say men are responsible in keeping black women in relationships

That's not the problem. The issue is that you are saying "what is the worth of being a provider?" If you can't be a provider, how can you expect to get the quality of women that you want? You are expecting women to ignore financial issues and to just be committed to you out of love. Sorry, love doesn't pay the bills. Money keeps food on the table, sends children to good schools and keeps them out of trouble via not associating with bad people and keeps your wife in line. Of course, ignore feminists, they are crazy I agree. But you cannot ignore why everyone who has the same mentality as you that women should expect to marry someone with low earnings will somehow work out. That is called struggle love. And women are waking up to it and you have to realize it. I focus on this because as a black centric board, I'm using the assumption that like me, you are black and want to marry black. This is important for all of us to recognize.

Why as a collective we don't get anywhere financially, why black women who grow up in poverty or middle class who are (according to data) fall back or even worse into poverty? Because they fell for what you are trying to sell them. Why can't black women just marry quality black men? There isn't enough to go around.
 
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You see when you challenge a social construct and people start acting like you're a fukked up person :wow:

Why am I defined as a man and a good person in relation to what I do for a woman?

Y'all nikkas sheep
A family is the crown jewel.

If that ain't you then I'm sure ull find another way to gain the respect of your peers.
 
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My mother and father were married (BOTH WORKED) and considered each other as providers (with my pop being the protector in case of danger) of the household while taking care of me and my three sisters.


My mother worked because she WANTED to work not because she HAD too, my father on the other hand had a good job enough to take care of all five of us but she refused to sit at home and be LAZY.


KEYWORD : LAZY.


Some of these women are just lazy and wanna be saved from working on some "I don't need this, my man has two jobs" shyt which is why some dudes aren't interested because the women who're talking this the most are looking for a savior.


Me & my wife both work, she's an Nurse Anesthetist for about 6yrs & I've been a Petroleum Engineer for 7yrs...both of our salaries together bring in $355k a year living good in NYC with no kids at this moment.


Now imagine if I was the only one working the yearly salary would be less and we wouldn't be living as good as we are now but some of these women in our community are low-key lazy...

And they wouldn't get the point I am making because they're too busy chasing this housewife "fairytale" with the picket fence and shyt.
 

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A family is the crown jewel.

If that ain't you then I'm sure ull find another way to gain the respect of your peers.
Ngl, my man is VERY good at his job, a superstar. But when I came to a work event, ppl who hadn't met me already had to give him the extra :leon:. Like, 'You can afford to keep that at home?' Me, the boss' wife, and the trophy wives clique up.
 

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That's not the problem. The issue is that you are saying "what is the worth of being a provider?" If you can't be a provider, how can you expect to get the quality of women that you want? You are expecting women to ignore financial issues and to just be committed to you out of love. Sorry, love doesn't pay the bills. Money keeps food on the table, sends children to good schools and keeps them out of trouble via not associating with bad people and keeps your wife in line. Of course, ignore feminists, they are crazy I agree. But you cannot ignore why everyone who has the same mentality as you that women should expect to marry someone with low earnings will somehow work out. That is called struggle love. And women are waking up to it and you have to realize it. I focus on this because as a black centric board, I'm using the assumption that like me, you are black and want to marry black. This is important for all of us to recognize.

Why as a collective we don't get anywhere financially, why black women who grow up in poverty or middle class who are (according to data) fall back or even worse into poverty? Because they fell for what you are trying to sell them. Why can't black women just marry quality black men? There isn't enough to go around.
But I'm a quality black man and I don't want to subscribe to that game fam. If I went to college and got off my ass for a career, then I want a woman who did the same.

Y'all keep cherry picking these bum black dudes.

I'm talking about a black man with his shyt together and on his grind. a Woman who doesn't contribute anything other than sex and child rearing is a liability to me

Also by that logic it seems if I fall off a woman would be justified in bushing me
 

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A family is the crown jewel.

If that ain't you then I'm sure ull find another way to gain the respect of your peers.
What happened to a nikka just being a good cat and that was enough for people to respect you lmao

I'm a young man so maybe it's my generation but a family isn't something I ever dreamed about as being the magnus opus of my life
 

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What happened to a nikka just being a good cat and that was enough for people to respect you lmao

I'm a young man so maybe it's my generation but a family isn't something I ever dreamed about as being the magnus opus of my life
People will respect you for being a good cat

People will view you as immature or flat out not respect you if are constantly vocalizing the importance of not protecting women. Doesn't really align with family values which is a respectable character trait.

Men typically at the least, want to protect the women in their own family.
 

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Now imagine if I was the only one working the yearly salary would be less and we wouldn't be living as good as we are now but some of these women in our community are low-key lazy...

And they wouldn't get the point I am making because they're too busy chasing this housewife "fairytale" with the picket fence and shyt.

I hate when people do this. I'm the only one talking this shyt in this thread, at least @ me.

What percentage do you save/ invest? Just out of curiosity.

re: fairytale. You make the life you want. There are some who are willing to run faster and faster on the wheel to meet their tastes and lifestyles. We work the other direction. We live a happy, peaceful life and have done so for almost 20 yrs in one of the most expensive markets in the world. I wouldn't trade that for anything. It's about priorities.
 
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But I'm a quality black man and I don't want to subscribe to that game fam. If I went to college and got off my ass for a career, then I want a woman who did the same.

Y'all keep cherry picking these bum black dudes.

I'm talking about a black man with his shyt together and on his grind. a Woman who doesn't contribute anything other than sex and child rearing is a liability to me

Also by that logic it seems if I fall off a woman would be justified in bushing me

Ok, but what kind of woman are you looking for? Are you looking for the college girls you went to school with and are as educated as you? Or are you looking at Instagram baddies? Because I can assure you, if it's the later you will have a problem. And given the fact that there are more black women graduating and then there are black men, there shouldn't be an issue in the first place. You have a pool to chose from, their pool is slim. You are a quality black man, so what's the issue? Don't look at retarded birds and you won't deal with lazy thots. You have the upper hand by default of gender ratio. It's up to you to decide to get on one knee and say "will you marry me" and up to her (the woman you set eyes on) to say "yes" back.
 
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