Why Are Men Who Claim "Good/Nice" Hated Sohh?

[philmonroe]

I'm not broke, you idiot.

Whatever you say champ but you lacking somewhere cause you doing too much struggle posting right now

 

[Neil Tyson]

Whatever you say champ but you lacking somewhere cause you doing too much struggle posting right now

About what? Explain this to me, you're probably the only one of us struggling in their life right now because, financially. I'm fine.

 

[raw613]

Women that genuinely prefer not shyt guys do exist, but there is no reason to be hurt by someone not thinking highly of themselves. That being said nice is vague and kind of generic, identity what strong character traits you have specifically and sell yourself based on that ( by showing you are confident in them not literally listing them lol). If you are assertive and have charisma you are generally not going to be rejected on the basis of being a good person

 

[FTBS]

as a reformed stereotypical, "nice" guy, I just want to say that all you nikkas bytchin about women and their love of a$$holes disgust me. I remember what my love life was like before I rethought that whole, "nice" thing and it was borderline pathetic. actually, it was pathetic. I didn't have a problem talking to women and attracting them, my problem was keeping them attracted. the problem was I was trying so hard to be a gentleman and not offend by not being overt in what my intentions were, I was basically putting myself in the friend zone by doing shyt like not initiating the first kiss or not doing so without prompting or whenever a decision of any sort needed to be made I would just say, "whatever you want to do" or "tell me what you want me to do". and when I did manage to actually somehow get into a relationship I would fukk that up by not really being myself. when at work or with friends I was the take charge of the situation, speak my mind with no filter, straight to the point, no bullshyt kind of dude, but when it came to women I wasn't assertive or any of that. I rarely said anything in disagreement. just all-around what I thought women considered, "nice". and each time I was summarily dismissed.

it took a lot of honest and awkward conversations with female friends and exes to figure out where I was going wrong. and as I've been saying in this thread, women do want nice, decent men, but they also want a man with a backbone willing to stand by his convictions and willing to pursue with vigor what it is that he wants. after realizing I wasn't that man, I had to rethink my entire mindset when it came to dating. I had to be willing to disappoint, every once in a while. contrary to the belief of you emotional manginas in this thread, when a woman says she is attracted to a$$holes or jerks, she doesn't mean it in the literal sense as in she likes being cheated on, beaten, and overall disrespected. she means that she wants a man who will put his foot down and stand his ground, even if it means hurting her feelings from time to time, or as my wife calls it when I tell her no or disagree with her opinion on a particular course of action and overrule her, "being a jerk". even if in the moment what i'm saying disappoints her or hurts her feelings, she still appreciates my willingness to do what I think is right.

now even after this period of enlightenment, I still had roadblocks in dating and again, I went to my female counsel to vent my frustration. I was on some, "I guess nice guys and gentlemen do finish last" type shyt. sort of like you losers. that's when my friend, a psychologist by trade, asked me a very basic question, "when it comes to all these failed relationships what's the common denominator in all those relationships? what is the one constant you can point to?" I was like, "me?! are you saying that i'm the one with a problem?! what about all these bytches who would rather be with a man that dogs them out?"
but what I was failing to see was that I chose every single one of those women. I had to do something about my criteria and my selection process. this is the reason I don't understand this circle jerk you guys have going on. if a woman you're pursuing isn't buying what you're offering don't cry about it. find someone who does appreciate what you bring to the table. and wouldn't you know it, not too long after I met my wife and I kept her by being a decent guy who's not afraid to be the bad guy from time to time. relationships are not zero sum. you don't HAVE to be nice/decent OR an a$$hole /thug/jerk etc. women want a modest combination of both. and the women who don't aren't worth your time anyway so who gives a fukk what they think?

All you dudes still riding with this "nice" guy thing need to read this:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/corey-d.-wilsons-girls-best/id536781473?mt=11

 

[philmonroe]

About what? Explain this to me, you're probably the only one of us struggling in their life right now because, financially. I'm fine.

Yep sure you are but you can't get naan notta chick though? Sure your right or maybe you just ugly

 

[Neil Tyson]

Yep sure you are but you can't get naan notta chick though? Sure your right or maybe you just ugly

I'm okay dating wise too, not as much as I'd like though. But I had to tone down my niceness to get to that point. Sounds like you're using false indicators from my debate to assume things about me, here's one I have for you that's 100% foolproof, judging by your grammar and your prose you're probably dumb as shyt.

Just because I like to argue about things I find interesting, doesn't mean anything. I just find the subject interesting. I'm inquisitive, that's how I am. You don't get anywhere by not asking questions or acting caveman-ish "Oh that's the way of the world."

 

[philmonroe]

I'm okay dating wise too, not as much as I'd like though. But I had to tone down my niceness to get to that point. Sounds like you're using false indicators from my debate to assume things about me, here's one I have for you that's 100% foolproof, judging by your grammar and your prose you're probably dumb as shyt.

Just because I like to argue about things I find interesting, doesn't mean anything. I just find the subject interesting. I'm inquisitive, that's how I am. You don't get anywhere by not asking questions or acting caveman-ish "Oh that's the way of the world."

What I find funny nice guy is you just said I'm using false indicators but then you use the same shyt to assume about me. Another nice guy/sucker trait. Continue on liar you still won't get no girls and ill still be dumb as shyt but doing my thing

 

[Neil Tyson]

What I find funny nice guy is you just said I'm using false indicators but then you use the same shyt to assume about me. Another nice guy/sucker trait. Continue on liar you still won't get no girls and ill still be dumb as shyt but doing my thing

Okay dumbass.

 

[philmonroe]

Okay dumbass.

Ya mammy

 

[Jason B]

as a reformed stereotypical, "nice" guy, I just want to say that all you nikkas bytchin about women and their love of a$$holes disgust me. I remember what my love life was like before I rethought that whole, "nice" thing and it was borderline pathetic. actually, it was pathetic. I didn't have a problem talking to women and attracting them, my problem was keeping them attracted. the problem was I was trying so hard to be a gentleman and not offend by not being overt in what my intentions were, I was basically putting myself in the friend zone by doing shyt like not initiating the first kiss or not doing so without prompting or whenever a decision of any sort needed to be made I would just say, "whatever you want to do" or "tell me what you want me to do". and when I did manage to actually somehow get into a relationship I would fukk that up by not really being myself. when at work or with friends I was the take charge of the situation, speak my mind with no filter, straight to the point, no bullshyt kind of dude, but when it came to women I wasn't assertive or any of that. I rarely said anything in disagreement. just all-around what I thought women considered, "nice". and each time I was summarily dismissed.

it took a lot of honest and awkward conversations with female friends and exes to figure out where I was going wrong. and as I've been saying in this thread, women do want nice, decent men, but they also want a man with a backbone willing to stand by his convictions and willing to pursue with vigor what it is that he wants. after realizing I wasn't that man, I had to rethink my entire mindset when it came to dating. I had to be willing to disappoint, every once in a while. contrary to the belief of you emotional manginas in this thread, when a woman says she is attracted to a$$holes or jerks, she doesn't mean it in the literal sense as in she likes being cheated on, beaten, and overall disrespected. she means that she wants a man who will put his foot down and stand his ground, even if it means hurting her feelings from time to time, or as my wife calls it when I tell her no or disagree with her opinion on a particular course of action and overrule her, "being a jerk". even if in the moment what i'm saying disappoints her or hurts her feelings, she still appreciates my willingness to do what I think is right.

now even after this period of enlightenment, I still had roadblocks in dating and again, I went to my female counsel to vent my frustration. I was on some, "I guess nice guys and gentlemen do finish last" type shyt. sort of like you losers. that's when my friend, a psychologist by trade, asked me a very basic question, "when it comes to all these failed relationships what's the common denominator in all those relationships? what is the one constant you can point to?" I was like, "me?! are you saying that i'm the one with a problem?! what about all these bytches who would rather be with a man that dogs them out?"
but what I was failing to see was that I chose every single one of those women. I had to do something about my criteria and my selection process. this is the reason I don't understand this circle jerk you guys have going on. if a woman you're pursuing isn't buying what you're offering don't cry about it. find someone who does appreciate what you bring to the table. and wouldn't you know it, not too long after I met my wife and I kept her by being a decent guy who's not afraid to be the bad guy from time to time. relationships are not zero sum. you don't HAVE to be nice/decent OR an a$$hole /thug/jerk etc. women want a modest combination of both. and the women who don't aren't worth your time anyway so who gives a fukk what they think?

Yes women don't want nice guys since they are really pushovers. But they don't want decent men, meaning those who have decent morals along with having backbone, either. Their actions coincide with that. So men should not be nice guys nor decent men because they are equally not respected by women.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

as a reformed stereotypical, "nice" guy, I just want to say that all you nikkas bytchin about women and their love of a$$holes disgust me. I remember what my love life was like before I rethought that whole, "nice" thing and it was borderline pathetic. actually, it was pathetic. I didn't have a problem talking to women and attracting them, my problem was keeping them attracted. the problem was I was trying so hard to be a gentleman and not offend by not being overt in what my intentions were, I was basically putting myself in the friend zone by doing shyt like not initiating the first kiss or not doing so without prompting or whenever a decision of any sort needed to be made I would just say, "whatever you want to do" or "tell me what you want me to do". and when I did manage to actually somehow get into a relationship I would fukk that up by not really being myself. when at work or with friends I was the take charge of the situation, speak my mind with no filter, straight to the point, no bullshyt kind of dude, but when it came to women I wasn't assertive or any of that. I rarely said anything in disagreement. just all-around what I thought women considered, "nice". and each time I was summarily dismissed.

it took a lot of honest and awkward conversations with female friends and exes to figure out where I was going wrong. and as I've been saying in this thread, women do want nice, decent men, but they also want a man with a backbone willing to stand by his convictions and willing to pursue with vigor what it is that he wants. after realizing I wasn't that man, I had to rethink my entire mindset when it came to dating. I had to be willing to disappoint, every once in a while. contrary to the belief of you emotional manginas in this thread, when a woman says she is attracted to a$$holes or jerks, she doesn't mean it in the literal sense as in she likes being cheated on, beaten, and overall disrespected. she means that she wants a man who will put his foot down and stand his ground, even if it means hurting her feelings from time to time, or as my wife calls it when I tell her no or disagree with her opinion on a particular course of action and overrule her, "being a jerk". even if in the moment what i'm saying disappoints her or hurts her feelings, she still appreciates my willingness to do what I think is right.

now even after this period of enlightenment, I still had roadblocks in dating and again, I went to my female counsel to vent my frustration. I was on some, "I guess nice guys and gentlemen do finish last" type shyt. sort of like you losers. that's when my friend, a psychologist by trade, asked me a very basic question, "when it comes to all these failed relationships what's the common denominator in all those relationships? what is the one constant you can point to?" I was like, "me?! are you saying that i'm the one with a problem?! what about all these bytches who would rather be with a man that dogs them out?"
but what I was failing to see was that I chose every single one of those women. I had to do something about my criteria and my selection process. this is the reason I don't understand this circle jerk you guys have going on. if a woman you're pursuing isn't buying what you're offering don't cry about it. find someone who does appreciate what you bring to the table. and wouldn't you know it, not too long after I met my wife and I kept her by being a decent guy who's not afraid to be the bad guy from time to time. relationships are not zero sum. you don't HAVE to be nice/decent OR an a$$hole /thug/jerk etc. women want a modest combination of both. and the women who don't aren't worth your time anyway so who gives a fukk what they think?

They not gon hear you tho. We're both reformed individuals and we've been lettin them know where they fukkin up. If they want to stay tangled in that web that's on them, personally it felt like I was soaking in stress soup and it was all over bytches I ain't know from piss on the ground. Only they can free themselves...

 

[VICVALLIN]

Yes women don't want nice guys since they are really pushovers. But they don't want decent men, meaning those who have decent morals along with having backbone, either. Their actions coincide with that. So men should not be nice guys nor decent men because they are equally not respected by women.

breh, just stop it. how old are you to believe this bullshyt you keep pushing? just because you've had the misfortune of wifing or pursuing some stupid chicks doesn't mean you know the hearts of all or even a majority of women. you're so jaded its inhibiting your ability to reason. I can't wait for the day a woman of actual high character and self-respect says to you, "you're an a$$hole. please, lose my number". you're gonna be like

 

[Jason B]

I doubt that because even supposed high quality women who carry themselves with decency will take up with an a$$hole/bad boy in a heartbeat and go to the ends of the earth for him. I have seen firsthand with the women in my family who did this as well other women. So, being an a$$hole, thug, bad boy or any other type of man who does not give a fukk about decency is a positive thing. I know that because since I have became that way women are showing me so much love and respect more than when I carried myself as a decent human being. Therefore, I cannot be convinced to believe anything different.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

^
To add to that, about 50% of marriages end in divorce in America, could it be because the husbands didn't have "backbone"?

 

[b. woods]

as a reformed stereotypical, "nice" guy, I just want to say that all you nikkas bytchin about women and their love of a$$holes disgust me. I remember what my love life was like before I rethought that whole, "nice" thing and it was borderline pathetic. actually, it was pathetic. I didn't have a problem talking to women and attracting them, my problem was keeping them attracted. the problem was I was trying so hard to be a gentleman and not offend by not being overt in what my intentions were, I was basically putting myself in the friend zone by doing shyt like not initiating the first kiss or not doing so without prompting or whenever a decision of any sort needed to be made I would just say, "whatever you want to do" or "tell me what you want me to do". and when I did manage to actually somehow get into a relationship I would fukk that up by not really being myself. when at work or with friends I was the take charge of the situation, speak my mind with no filter, straight to the point, no bullshyt kind of dude, but when it came to women I wasn't assertive or any of that. I rarely said anything in disagreement. just all-around what I thought women considered, "nice". and each time I was summarily dismissed.

it took a lot of honest and awkward conversations with female friends and exes to figure out where I was going wrong. and as I've been saying in this thread, women do want nice, decent men, but they also want a man with a backbone willing to stand by his convictions and willing to pursue with vigor what it is that he wants. after realizing I wasn't that man, I had to rethink my entire mindset when it came to dating. I had to be willing to disappoint, every once in a while. contrary to the belief of you emotional manginas in this thread, when a woman says she is attracted to a$$holes or jerks, she doesn't mean it in the literal sense as in she likes being cheated on, beaten, and overall disrespected. she means that she wants a man who will put his foot down and stand his ground, even if it means hurting her feelings from time to time, or as my wife calls it when I tell her no or disagree with her opinion on a particular course of action and overrule her, "being a jerk". even if in the moment what i'm saying disappoints her or hurts her feelings, she still appreciates my willingness to do what I think is right.

now even after this period of enlightenment, I still had roadblocks in dating and again, I went to my female counsel to vent my frustration. I was on some, "I guess nice guys and gentlemen do finish last" type shyt. sort of like you losers. that's when my friend, a psychologist by trade, asked me a very basic question, "when it comes to all these failed relationships what's the common denominator in all those relationships? what is the one constant you can point to?" I was like, "me?! are you saying that i'm the one with a problem?! what about all these bytches who would rather be with a man that dogs them out?"
but what I was failing to see was that I chose every single one of those women. I had to do something about my criteria and my selection process. this is the reason I don't understand this circle jerk you guys have going on. if a woman you're pursuing isn't buying what you're offering don't cry about it. find someone who does appreciate what you bring to the table. and wouldn't you know it, not too long after I met my wife and I kept her by being a decent guy who's not afraid to be the bad guy from time to time. relationships are not zero sum. you don't HAVE to be nice/decent OR an a$$hole /thug/jerk etc. women want a modest combination of both. and the women who don't aren't worth your time anyway so who gives a fukk what they think?