Why Are Men Who Claim "Good/Nice" Hated Sohh?

[Neil Tyson]

Not ever self-identifying "nice guy" is a sociopath. But I don't consider anybody who deems a whole gender of people flawed for not finding them to be attractive to be nice. Being nice requires being able to empathize & understand other people's points of view, which in the context of this conversation means understanding why women might legitimately find you to be unattractive, without blaming them for having requirements/preferences (as anybody should).

But yet you're okay with finding a whole category of people to be flawed because they seem to find a whole gender to be flawed? I don't get it. I personally, don't find women to be flawed. I've met women who appreciate me. Maybe you've been meeting too many Elliot Rodgers.

Being nice requires being able to empathize & understand other people's points of view, which in the context of this conversation means understanding why women might legitimately find you to be unattractive, without blaming them for having requirements/preferences (as anybody should).

There are nice people like this who won't blame women, but they're fully aware that there are types of women who will appreciate their personality. There are the fakes like Elliot Rodgers, who will blame women. But the former outnumbers the latter, they don't go on PUAHate they just say oh well what're you gonna do?

 

[Neil Tyson]

Plus "nice guys" complain about women not findign them attractive.... but if they lowered their standards enough, they'd have no problem pulling chicks. Water finds its own level. So why complain about women being superficial and unreasonable, when you do the same thing "Nice guys" are deluded and think they are way more attractive and eligible than they actually are.

That's where you fukked up.

Define lowering standards, what standards should they accept?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

There are nice people like this who won't blame women, but they're fully aware that there are types of women who will appreciate their personality.

Lol, these people obviously aren't who I am talking about, as they understand women and probably have no trouble attracting/dating women.

That's where you fukked up.

Define lowering standards, what standards should they accept?

Lowering standards in things like attractiveness, personality, etc. etc. If a dude is ugly, broke and boring he should not expect to be pulling down dimes. Explain how that is "fukked up".

 

[Neil Tyson]

Lol, these people obviously aren't who I am talking about, as they understand women and probably have no trouble attracting/dating women.


Lowering standards in things like attractiveness, personality, etc. etc. If a dude is ugly, broke and boring he should not expect to be pulling down dimes. Explain how that is "fukked up".

Most dimes have no personality. They're just dimes.

Goofy chicks that are just average looking sure, but they're not dimes. And there are nice people that don't have those three demeaning traits so I dunno what you're talking about there.

Since when does "nice" equate to ugly, broke and boring?

They're just nice. Was young 2pac ugly and broke?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Most dimes have no personality. They're just dimes.

Goofy chicks that are just average looking sure, but they're not dimes. And there are nice people that don't have those three demeaning traits so I dunno what you're talking about there.

Since when does "nice" equate to ugly, broke and boring?

They're just nice. Was young 2pac ugly and broke?

Lol, musings of a dude who has never dated one. I grew up in NYC. There are plenty of stunningly attractive women with good personalities. I have dated a few.

And nice doesn't equate to ugly, broke, and boring. But dudes who say things like "why dont the women I want want me? I am nice" are usually some combination of that three. Being legitimately nice is never a hindrance, but its not enough on its own to pull 7s and up. No one factor is.

 

[Blackout]

There's a part of me that is attracted to a$$holes, yes.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

If you're a soft, mealy-mouthed loser with no social skills (not saying you personally) you're gunna take L's in all facets of life. Y'all can blame women for this all you want if you like.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

If you're a soft, mealy-mouthed loser with no social skills (not saying you personally) you're gunna take L's in all facets of life. Y'all can blame women for this all you want if you like.

I bet some of these are the brehs who say women are the reason men are so weak these days

 

[Blackout]

If you're a soft, mealy-mouthed loser with no social skills (not saying you personally) you're gunna take L's in all facets of life. Y'all can blame women for this all you want if you like.

Having social skills, speaking with strength and not being a loser is perfect for any part of life whether it be from getting women to getting the job you want to making friends with people who can help you out.

Regardless if a woman likes a$$holes no amount of social skills is gonna help a nice guy who is not a loser get her.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Having social skills, speaking with strength and not being a loser is perfect for any part of life whether it be from getting women to getting the job you want to making friends with people who can help you out.

Regardless if a woman likes a$$holes no amount of social skills is gonna help a nice guy who is not a loser get her.

The problem here is how "a$$hole" is being defined. Biscuts explained what she meant, and it fits with the idea that "a$$hole" is really just shorthand for someone with social skills, confidence, and someone who has a lot going for himself. The funny part is that "a$$holes" are loved by men everywhere --- especially here; we always get on broke, soft, weak ass men, and big up nikkas who are tough, have bravado, and who strive to make moves, but its somehow evil when women value those qualities all of a sudden. Its a social construct that all people are being informed by.

Some people in this thread are lashing out at women by trying to make it seem they only like sociopaths or something as a way to explain their difficulty in connecting with the opposite sex. Thats whats going on here.

 

[Blackout]

The problem here is how "a$$hole" is being defined. Biscuts explained what she meant, and it fits with the idea that "a$$hole" is really just shorthand for someone with social skills, confidence, and someone who has a lot going for himself. The funny part is that "a$$holes" are loved by men everywhere --- especially here; we always get on broke, soft, weak ass men, and big up nikkas who are tough, have bravado, and who strive to make moves, but its somehow evil when women value those qualities all of a sudden. Its a social construct that all people are being informed by.

Some people in this thread are lashing out at women by trying to make it seem they only like sociopaths or something as a way to explain their difficulty in connecting with the opposite sex. Thats whats going on here.

What is going on in here is people trying to change the definition of a$$hole and nice guy and therefore assigning the label to the wrong people.

a$$holes are now those with social skills, confidence, and someone who has a lot going for himself.

When in reality there are nice guys that posses all of that.

Nice guys are now those with no social skills, no confidence and have nothing going on for themselves.

When in reality there are a$$holes who posses all of that.

Elliot Rogers was an a$$hole, many guys on PUA hate who are misogynists are a$$holes.

You guys are just mixing up the two for some weird reason.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

What is going on in here is people trying to change the definition of a$$hole and nice guy and therefore assigning the label to the wrong people.

a$$holes are now those with social skills, confidence, and someone who has a lot going for himself.

When in reality there are nice guys that posses all of that.

Nice guys are now those with no social skills, no confidence and have nothing going on for themselves.

When in reality there are a$$holes who posses all of that.

Elliot Rogers was an a$$hole, many guys on PUA hate who are misogynists are a$$holes.

You guys are just mixing up the two for some weird reason.

You just helped make my point. Those with an Elliot Rodgers mentality and PUA types are the biggest a$$holes on the planet, and they cant figure out how to get within 1000 ft. of a willing naked woman. If women love irredeemable "a$$holes" without exception or prejudice, then why are these guys swimming in puss?

 

[Blackout]

You just helped make my point. Those with an Elliot Rodgers mentality and PUA types are the biggest a$$holes on the planet, and they cant figure out how to get within 1000 ft. of a willing naked woman. If women love irredeemable "a$$holes" without exception or prejudice, then why are these guys swimming in puss?

Ill answer that with this:

What is going on in here is people trying to change the definition of a$$hole and nice guy and therefore assigning the label to the wrong people.

Nice guys are now those with no social skills, no confidence and have nothing going on for themselves.

When in reality there are a$$holes who posses all of that.

Those PUAhate dudes are the a$$holes who posses all of those loser qualities.

Now if they become a$$holes who posses social skills, confidence, and a lot of stuff going for him in the future or become popular by luck then...

They most likely become like those same a$$holes that they used to talk down on and even start playing those women too.

The real nice guys stay the same before and after they get social skills, confidence and things going for them.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Ill answer that with this:

Those PUAhate dudes are the a$$holes who posses all of those loser qualities.

Now if they become a$$holes who posses social skills, confidence, and a lot of stuff going for him in the future then...

They most likely become like those same a$$holes that they used to talk down on or even worse.

The real nice guys stay the same before and after they get social skills, confidence and things going for them.

I think im confused and unclear on what it is you're tying to say...lol

 

[Blackout]

I think im confused and unclear on what it is you're tying to say...lol

I edited my post. Re-read it and it should be clear now.