Why are people scared of the cavs?

[Swagnificent]

Mo and boobie were horrible defenders.

reading comprehension breh. they were the knock down shooters. west, lebron, and varejao were the defenders. no team has dudes at every position that can defend. hell even the championship lakers had to deal with derek fisher's turntable defense and pau gasol softness.

 

[FTBS]

true. but having a dude in the post hurts bron's playing style. why else do you think they turned Chris Bosh into a 6'11" shooting guard. and why do you think he's going back to the post this season.

you can't have a lebron centric offense AND have a dominant post player. because lebron is mainly a driver of the basketball, he requires spacing and 3pt shooters. having a big that needs low post touches clogs the paint and renders bron's #1 skill mute.

that is why Kobe was always in my mind superior. his game is more versitile. he can play with bigs that clog up the paint because his mid-range jump shot is so elite. he doesn't need as much spacing as dudes like bron or wade need to be effective.

Lebron and Wade both played with an older, slower Shaq and each other. Stop it.
Bosh turned himself into a 6'11 shooting guard and he admitted as much. If he was such a force in the post Bron wouldn't have had to become one so can we please end this silly myth.

No one is afraid of the Cavs...until of course they cash in on their potential after which they will be referenced as a super duper unbeatable team that is unfair or until they cop and L and then it will be Bron couldn't get it done with a super duper unbeatable team.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Clippers aren't contenders because they're a highlight show. In the same boat as golden state. Nothing you're saying is fact. You're making excuses for a team because of where they play.

Y'all gotta stop reaching. That's that's like me saying Miami would've beat anybody not named the spurs last year, see how easy that is to do.

Is it not a fact that the east is a weaker conference than the west? Idk how that's a reach. If a good team is playing against weaker competition I think it's fair to say they'd go farther........ And your example is actually flipped. It's more like you saying Miami wouldn't have beaten any top 3 team from the west. They probably wouldn't have

 

[Draje]

no. i'm talkin bout the 2009 and 2010 teams with delonte west and anderson varejao providing that grit and toughness while cats like boobie gibson and mo williams were knocking down open shots.

i thought those teams were perfectly crafted around lebron's skills. good defenders that could hit open shots. then they played the lebron centric offense where he dribbled the ball for 20 seconds then put his head down and barrelled to the rim. if the defense collapsed he'd kick it out, if not he'd finish the layup. ugly basketball but effective.

I think that sort of team suited Bron more than the all offense/no defense squad they got him with now.

You mean the Vajero and West who weren't even starting in the playoffs in 10?

and Mo Williams who shot 40% FG across the playoffs in both the years GOU talking Bout? THAT'S THE OPEN SHOOTER MARKSMAN YOU TALKING ABOUT? The 22-23 year old Daniel Gibson who was knocking down shots at a whopping 32% shooting threat in 09?

Shut the Fukk up.

Someone trying to argue that a 2nd option Mo Williams dropping 16 PPG on 40% is a great playoff option. Lamar Odom was a far better 2nd option to Kobe for that kinda BS. Odom dropping 19 on 49% on the worst team Kobe's ever been on and you think a 16 PPG Mo Shootjng 40% is a good 2nd option for a championship squad.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Lmao do u guys really think the clippers are a contender? They can't even get past the second rd. Durant missed his chance to win with okc already. Thibs runs his players into the ground. Spurs are the only viable team.

I almost missed this fukkery. KD just turned 26. Russ is 25. Serge is 25. Yet you think there window of opportunity is closed??

 

[Draje]

true. but having a dude in the post hurts bron's playing style. why else do you think they turned Chris Bosh into a 6'11" shooting guard. and why do you think he's going back to the post this season.

you can't have a lebron centric offense AND have a dominant post player. because lebron is mainly a driver of the basketball, he requires spacing and 3pt shooters. having a big that needs low post touches clogs the paint and renders bron's #1 skill mute.

that is why Kobe was always in my mind superior. his game is more versitile. he can play with bigs that clog up the paint because his mid-range jump shot is so elite. he doesn't need as much spacing as dudes like bron or wade need to be effective.

First of all, Kobe needs great rebounding big men to make the most of his volume shooting style. Odom, Gasol, Bynum, and Shaq.

Lebron's game is also more versatile because he's essentially a a great playmaking point guard, an elite post presence like a big man, or a guy who can stretch the floor with his 3PT shot because he's extremely good post presence.

You say Kobe is more versatile but is he really? Could he play with another ball dominant scorer like AI or JR Smith because Lebrun was able to co-exist and get to the finals with an extremely similar player and he did by adding a post game and an great 3 point shot to his slashing arsenal.

Get outta here.

 

[Reggie]

People are scared because if they reach there potential as a team they are probably going to the Finals. But I expect them to lose to whoever comes out of the West either way.

 

[Ace2306]

I almost missed this fukkery. KD just turned 26. Russ is 25. Serge is 25. Yet you think there window of opportunity is closed??

Durant isn't gonna win with the dynamic they currently have in okc. They don't even know who should take the last shot. Perkins still starting at center they got rid of harden who was the real pg of that finals team. That team is a mess.

 

[Ace2306]

Is it not a fact that the east is a weaker conference than the west? Idk how that's a reach. If a good team is playing against weaker competition I think it's fair to say they'd go farther........ And your example is actually flipped. It's more like you saying Miami wouldn't have beaten any top 3 team from the west. They probably wouldn't have

They played against the same weak competition the year before and beat the same team that took out your so called superior competition. No way okc or the clips was beating Miami last year.

 

[Swagnificent]

First of all, Kobe needs great rebounding big men to make the most of his volume shooting style. Odom, Gasol, Bynum, and Shaq.

Lebron's game is also more versatile because he's essentially a a great playmaking point guard, an elite post presence like a big man, or a guy who can stretch the floor with his 3PT shot because he's extremely good post presence.

You say Kobe is more versatile but is he really? Could he play with another ball dominant scorer like AI or JR Smith because Lebrun was able to co-exist and get to the finals with an extremely similar player and he did by adding a post game and an great 3 point shot to his slashing arsenal.

Get outta here.

Kobe won 3 rings with Shaq averaging 28ppg on 20fgs/game and 11fts/game. Bron has NEVER been on a team with a guy who takes 20 shots a game. EVER. other than himself of course.

Kobe has proven he can win as a solo star or the co-star. we all saw Bron fizzle out in 2011 when he had to share the finals stage with Wade. they needed Wade to take a step back and let lebron run everything for a chance to win.

so please stop with this mythology. bron is the one who needs the ball in his hands 24/7 to be effective. kobe is much more effective playing without the ball and playing with another ball dominant player.

 

[Lakerman0834]

First of all, Kobe needs great rebounding big men to make the most of his volume shooting style. Odom, Gasol, Bynum, and Shaq.

Lebron's game is also more versatile because he's essentially a a great playmaking point guard, an elite post presence like a big man, or a guy who can stretch the floor with his 3PT shot because he's extremely good post presence.

You say Kobe is more versatile but is he really? Could he play with another ball dominant scorer like AI or JR Smith because Lebrun was able to co-exist and get to the finals with an extremely similar player and he did by adding a post game and an great 3 point shot to his slashing arsenal.

Get outta here.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

They played against the same weak competition the year before and beat the same team that took out your so called superior competition. No way okc or the clips was beating Miami last year.

So last years heat = the heat from two years ago?? Miami was clearly worse last year. Plus we all know the Spurs should've won both. They choked away game six. A Kawhi freethrow and it was over. Miami still won it but the Spurs were the better team . Last years Miami team would've lost to a plethora of western conference teams. Anyone who follows bball would know this

Durant isn't gonna win with the dynamic they currently have in okc. They don't even know who should take the last shot. Perkins still starting at center they got rid of harden who was the real pg of that finals team. That team is a mess.

They got so much time to correct those errors tho. Like I said before these boys are 26,25, and 25. You think they can't correct those errors within the next 5 years? They aren't even in there primes yet their window is closed? There window is in no way shape or form closed.

 

[Kaypain]

The logic that says "since Lebron took the Cavs to a ship with scrubs in 2007, he'll def win one now in 2015 because he has great players around him" is so dumb
First of all it's annoying when people bring it up like it was such a grand accomplishment. Have yall seen the competition in the east in in 2007? shyt was putrid. Number 1 team in the east would've been the 5th seed in the west. I mean there's a reason the Spurs mollywhopped them. The east was a pile of ass teams.
As it stands now these Chicago Bulls are multiple times better than any east team in 2007. Same with the Cavs. It's not as if this Cavs team is going back in time facing the same field of teams that the 2007 Cavs faced. What lebron did in 2007 is completely irrelevant to the current situation.

Getting sick of hearing this if so and so team was in the West blase blah shyt.

 

[Malta]

they traded away their best long term asset in Wiggins. sorry but unless they trade kyrie and/or love they won't be winning a title.

kyrie and love are not elite two-way players and bron quit playing 2-way basketball last year after the heavy minutes starting taking a toll.

Wiggins woulda made then a title contender for the next decade. now they're window is the next 2-3 years of lebron's prime before he starts declining.

You just vomit on your keyboard and let the magic work

They still have assets whether you think so or not, Thompson or Waiters coupled with their $16 million in expirings and the Memphis pick are very good assets that can land them a player on a max deal.

Roy Hibbert, Larry Sanders, Marc Gasol or DeAndre Jordan added to this Cavs team would plug the biggest hole on their roster with paint defenders. They aren't the Heat, they have means to improve their roster beyond just signing old ass players, especially with the cap about to go up.

 

[seymour cake]

Add a healthy OKC.

Hell....I think half the teams in the Western Conference would give them a run for their money.

Nah okc won't beat them..