Why are people so afraid of Islam?

[Blackking]

Muhammad is Arab.

You are no better than Muhammad, he is a man like you..................... Muslims don't prey to Muhammad, only the ignorant and foolish believe this. Don't fall into that group son. That's not where you want to be.

PE'ace.


in any regard.......




The manner in which Islam spread and regenerated in black America prefigures the style in which Islam influenced hip-hop Ñmyriad strands and theories entered the conversation separately and converged, battled, and complemented each other. As Muslim sects overlapped, new offshoots were born. Shape-shifting is a key aspect of the theological spread, as is the case with Muslim influence on hip-hop. Adisa Banjoko explains it by saying, "Look, when people ask how many people are in NOI, they hear: those who tell don't know, and those who know don't tell. But this obscures the fact that NOI always has high turnover. It's often the passing-through point for people on their way to Sunni Islam. And the same is true of the rappers. You want to know if they are 5 Percenters, NOI or Sunni................. well, many of them have very fluid positions."
It is these fluid positions that characterize the Muslim influence on hip-hop.

 

[Blackking]

nikkas/cacs will clown the shyt out of you if you ever quote a verse around them on the internet.....hell, even in real life.

Islam on the other hand be having dudes like.

Although the usual answer to "who invented rap" is the trio of DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaata, and Grandmaster Flash, the roots extend further back to black Muslim artists experimenting with rhyme structure and spoken word delivery in the 1960s. One of the earliest influences was the group the Last Poets, whose founding members included Abiodun Oyewole, Umar Bin Hassan, Jalal Nurridin, and Suliman El Hadi. The Poets were black radicals, detonating their lyrics on an America already on fire:

When the revolution comes
some of us will catch it on TV
with chicken hanging from our mouths
you'll know it's revolution
because there won't be no commercials
when the revolution comes




In their most famous spoken-word piece "******s are scared of revolution," they pioneered the staccato speeded-up delivery that came to characterize rap rhythms. Simultaneously, this work began the reappropriation of the "N" word, a process now done to death by modern hip-hop:

******s are scared of revolution but ******s shouldn't be scared of revolution because revolution is nothing but change, and all ******s do is change. ******s come in from work and change into pimping clothes to hit the street and make some quick change. ******s change their hair from black to red to blond and hope like hell their looks will change.

The Last Poets were the original activist artists, combining their music and poetry with direct action including alliances with the SNCC (Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee), the SDS (Students for a Democratic Society), and the Black Panthers. Their records were released during a period of violent confrontation, including the murder of two black students and the wounding of twelve others by police at Jackson State University, a daisy-chain of ghetto rebellions in 1970, and the FBI's national campaign to arrest Angela Davis. With their lyrics feeding into the fervor of the times, the Poets were heavily monitored by the FBI and police, and were arrested for trying to rob the Klu Klux Klan. Decades later, these same trends were repeated as the NYPD began surveillance of hip-hop groups, especially those with outspoken politics. Talking about the explosive effect of the Poets' early work, Darius James called it
"a bomb on black Amerikkka's turntables. Muthafukkas ran f'cover. Nobody was ready. Had em scared o' revolution. Scared o' the whyte man's god complex. Scared o' subways. Scared o' each other. Scared o' themselves. And scared o' that totem of onanistic worship the eagle-clawed Amerikkkan greenback! The rhetoric made you mad. The drums made you pop your fingers."[x] Amiri Baraka in turn identified them as rap's root source: "The Last Poets are the prototype Rappers." Baraka himself had converted to NOI, and influenced by that ideology and fever-pitch race tensions, wrote the blueprint gangsta lyric:

 

[Blackking]

Islam's problem has to do with a lack of images/symbols projected to the outside world.

In essence, there are 3 intrinsic forms of cultural representation... language, images, and music... different societies utilitize these forms to varying degrees.


Music is universal, but it's apolitical. Language and images both have political value, but language is culturally specific, whereas imagistic representation is universal. I can't understand how the French communicate the idea of a tree in language... but I can recognize it in symbol.

Christianity is an image based culture. Islam is not. Think about how many times Islamic radicals have threatened artists for drawing images Muhammad. They are opposed to creating a likeness of God/prophet's in one's own image.

Beyond a focus on scripture and philosophy, Muslim beliefs guide rappers in very specific ways toward community renewal and progressive politics. NOI focuses on self-sufficiency of the community and this has come to influence the lyrics of rap's Muslim generation. When NOI first moves into a blighted area, they get people dress well, stop drinking, and clean up crack houses. Then come related programs, such as the push to buy black and boycott racist merchants. All of these programs influenced rap lyrics that sought to uplift the race. But here the contradictions of the music also come bubbling to the surface. When Wu-Tang began their Forever double album, the lyrics embraced their Muslim listeners:

These things just took over me
Just took over my whole body
So I can't even see no more
I'm calling my black woman a bytch
I'm calling my peoples all kinds of thing that they not
I'm lost brother, can you help me
Can you help me brother, please
(Wu-Tang Clan, "Wu-Revolution," Forever, 1999)

 

[godkiller]

You are no better than Muhammad, he is a man like you..................... Muslims don't prey to Muhammad, only the ignorant and foolish believe this. Don't fall into that group son. That's not where you want to be.

PE'ace.


in any regard.......




The manner in which Islam spread and regenerated in black America prefigures the style in which Islam influenced hip-hop Ñmyriad strands and theories entered the conversation separately and converged, battled, and complemented each other. As Muslim sects overlapped, new offshoots were born. Shape-shifting is a key aspect of the theological spread, as is the case with Muslim influence on hip-hop. Adisa Banjoko explains it by saying, "Look, when people ask how many people are in NOI, they hear: those who tell don't know, and those who know don't tell. But this obscures the fact that NOI always has high turnover. It's often the passing-through point for people on their way to Sunni Islam. And the same is true of the rappers. You want to know if they are 5 Percenters, NOI or Sunni................. well, many of them have very fluid positions."
It is these fluid positions that characterize the Muslim influence on hip-hop.

The Korean makes for nice poetry, but these arabic lies do not persuade me.

 

[fscballin]

The Roman Catholic Church has done more harm than most ever realize. Romans have been killing Christians since Jesus Himself was on the scene. Even Saul/Paul had a body count. Nero was killing us like nobody's business.

Don't lay at the feet of Christianity which rightly belongs in the hands of the Romans/Vatican.

Romans were not killing Christians, and no one named Jesus was ever on the the scene. The new testament is a fictional/satirical account of the Hebrew Israelite messiah, and those convinced of its legitimacy have snared their souls.

 

[Blackking]

The Korean makes for nice poetry, but these arabic lies do not persuade me.

if you're righteous then chances are you're following the poetry without realizing it. So congradulations

I don't care if it moves you - but at the very least you could not make up lies and hate on it.

it's suspicious that you're moved to hate on something that so many greater blacks than you have accepted.

I bet your the type of nikka that would have had Asstasa Shakur Die in jail just because she wanted to change her trail dates to avoid Islamic days

Peace.

 

[godkiller]

if you're righteous then chances are you're following the poetry without realizing it. So congradulations

I don't care if it moves you - but at the very least you could not make up lies and hate on it.

it's suspicious that you're moved to hate on something that so many greater blacks than you have accepted.

I bet your the type of nikka that would have had Asstasa Shakur Die in jail just because she wanted to change her trail dates to avoid Islamic days

Peace.

Malcolm X's greatest mistake and tragedy was giving up his black ideals to follow Islamic book nonsense. The only reason black Americans ever follow Islam is because cacs don't.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Malcolm X's greatest mistake and tragedy was giving up his black ideals to follow Islamic book nonsense. The only reason black Americans ever follow Islam is because cacs don't.

what?
he didn't give up his black ideals when he embraced orthodox islam, he came back with a broad mind and a vision plus he made great connects in africa etc..you stupid child.

 

[godkiller]

what?
he didn't give up his black ideals when he embraced orthodox islam, he came back with a broad mind and a vision plus he made great connects in africa etc..you stupid child.

Everything he said after he went to Saudi Arabia is religious mumbo jumbo we-are-all-one Ghandi bullshyt. Before that he was a clear-eyed black power activist. What did all those "connects" Malcolm made in Africa do for him here? Nothing. Most Africans don't even practice Islam. Countries that do practice Islam are in flames today.

 

[Blackking]

Malcolm X's greatest mistake and tragedy was giving up his black ideals to follow Islamic book nonsense. The only reason black Americans ever follow Islam is because cacs don't.

The reason black Americans follow islam has nothing to do with CACS.

Black Muslims are one of the most self sufficient black group in ameirkka.. Historically have been the most willing to separate from CACS, and have a very high % of being business owners because they have no desire to even deal with CACS.
Truth is ........ We have so little regard for CACS that we don't even hate or despise them - despite controversial shyt we say , in truth, about them.


Who are you to say what Malcolm x's greatest tragedy was? Do you not realize the mental and social impact that Ahki had on the mindset of blacks and the world?

Please don't tell me you are unaware how Ahki Malcolm was before Islam....... He was a black Muslim with the nOI and AFter the NOI. And Activist before the NOI and after the nOI. Most black Muslims aren't noi - but I still have respect for that group. I really like their push for self-sufficiency.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Everything he said after he went to Saudi Arabia is religious mumbo jumbo we-are-all-one Ghandi bullshyt. Before that he was a clear-eyed black power activist. What did all those "connects" Malcolm made in Africa do for him here? Nothing. Most Africans don't even practice Islam. Countries that do practice Islam are in flames today.

you fool, he died not long after that trip..he was starting things up and was speaking with the united nations..
and he was a Muslim when he was that hardcore bow tie Minister..

 

[godkiller]

The reason black Americans follow islam has nothing to do with CACS.

Black Muslims are one of the most self sufficient black group in ameirkka.. Historically have been the most willing to separate from CACS, and have a very high % of being business owners because they have no desire to even deal with CACS.
Truth is ........ We have so little regard for CACS that we don't even hate or despise them - despite controversial shyt we say , in truth, about them.


Who are you to say what Malcolm x's greatest tragedy was? Do you not realize the mental and social impact that Ahki had on the mindset of blacks and the world?

Please don't tell me you are unaware how Ahki Malcolm was before Islam....... He was a black Muslim with the nOI and AFter the NOI. And Activist before the NOI and after the nOI. Most black Muslims aren't noi - but I still have respect for that group. I really like their push for self-sufficiency.

Black Muslims are nothing but followers into the abyss. Their eventua end point is the same as Boko Haram, terrorizing its own people in the name of some Arab's poetic propaganda.

 

[Blackking]

Black Muslims are nothing but followers into the abyss. Their eventua end point is the same as Boko Haram, terrorizing its own people in the name of some Arab's poetic propaganda.

you're even ignorant on the backers and financiers of Boko haram?
Don't you know that some of the politicians right in Nigeria are backing that shyt and that international politics is funding them as well. The former governor of Borno created the group.... and he supposedly claims they have nothing to do what it's become. Most Western nations who promised to help- haven't helped yet. Why do you think that is?

You probably don't even care that many of the people and children that are killed are Muslim
.1% of the people there follow the doctrine of the Boko Haram.. the rest of the Muslims and Christians are regualar....... and ignorant red necks and uninformed nikkas like you want to use the death of children and women to promote a hate of Islam.

I wonder if you're too embarrassed to state your religion. ?

 

[Sk3ptical]

Muhammad is Arab.

not a cac

 

[Chris.B]

because many of them see it as the enemy of Christianity and in turn, falsely recognize it as a friend of the black man


but most people don't have a clue about the true history of Islam

Truth