Why are predominately black countries mostly poor? in your opinion

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Its songhai* i believe?


... and of course they did, but they are drops in the bucket, and all in the same region... the region with trade routes. Which supports my argument.






:patrice: I'm beginning to think, based on how u guys focus on west Africa/egypt that you see Africa as much smaller than it is.

Why do you not want to admit black folks are capable of great things is the real question. I can sit back and know my ancestors gave cacs their civilization. I have facts to back it up. Also bring up some population statics and locations of said populations since giant empires spanning thousands of miles isn't impressive enough for you. Point out those "uncivilized" masses of people.
 

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How is Europe the measuring stick when they had what like two great empires in the time span African had many many more. It seems odd to me.
 

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great zimbabwe was up until 1400s
swahili cast was up until 1900s
zulus was up until 1800s

the european did not reach africa until the 1400s, so im not sure what the significance of that is

what exactly is the swahili cast or coast, is that an empire?

zulus were massacred by machine guns

nothing you said disproves that africans were behind technologically and were mostly illiterate
 

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the european did not reach africa until the 1400s, so im not sure what the significance of that is

what exactly is the swahili cast or coast, is that an empire?

zulus were massacred by machine guns

nothing you said disproves that africans were behind technologically and were mostly illiterate

Which is a strawman since his argument was that those regions had no empires....reading comprehension isn't hard :ld:

and you still haven't backed your point on literacy as if we will take the word of a smart dumbass :heh:
 

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How is Europe the measuring stick when they had what like two great empires in the time span African had many many more. It seems odd to me.

the question was asked why are black people poor all over the world, the empires you are bringing up just begs the question even more as to why black people all over the world are poor

europe is the measuring stick because of their current wealth and because poverty is defined using european standards
 

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:heh:

Its all about industrialization... or the lack there of. How great a nation was became meaningless once the industrial age began. The question is why did the IR miss Africa...

Before the 1800s, Western nations did business in Africa and Asia within the relatively few existing trade and political networks. After the Industrial Revolution, Western powers used their superior weapons and powerful iron warships to conquer much of the world, especially lands in Africa and Asia. In 1800, Western powers controlled 35 percent of the world's land surface; by 1914, they controlled 84 percent...

Do the math brehs
 

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Act like Europeans weren't getting their ass kicked for a 1000 years during the crusades :dead:
 

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Its all about industrialization... or the lack there of. How great a nation was became meaningless once the industrial age began. The question is why did the IR miss Africa...

Before the 1800s, Western nations did business in Africa and Asia within the relatively few existing trade and political networks. After the Industrial Revolution, Western powers used their superior weapons and powerful iron warships to conquer much of the world, especially lands in Africa and Asia. In 1800, Western powers controlled 35 percent of the world's land surface; by 1914, they controlled 84 percent...

The industrial age was in the 1800s bro. Africa was already colonized.
 

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Which is a strawman since his argument was that those regions had no empires....reading comprehension isn't hard :ld:

and you still haven't backed your point on literacy as if we will take the word of a smart dumbass :heh:

my point about literacy is just from my reading of history

you have never backed up your point about colonization, everybody wants to say its colonization but nobody seems to want to discuss why the colonization happened and how and why the africans were conquered

the how and why explains why black people are poor imo
 

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you have never backed up your point about colonization, everybody wants to say its colonization but nobody seems to want to discuss why the colonization happened and how and why the africans were conquered

Because they came up with up with trade agreements that they would break then use steel to enforce
 

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Cacs use to fukk royalty then have the mixed offspring choose sides. Along with all their other disturbing tactics to divide and conquer African nations and take them over cause Europe is a piece of shyt and they wanted spices and gold real bad.
 

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Why do you not want to admit black folks are capable of great things is the real question. I can sit back and know my ancestors gave cacs their civilization. I have facts to back it up. Also bring up some population statics and locations of said populations since giant empires spanning thousands of miles isn't impressive enough for you. Point out those "uncivilized" masses of people.

:dahell: My argument has zero to do with race...
My position is trade was(is) key and where is what abundant nations flourished, and where it was scarce, nations struggled. A map of trade routes and the nations you named would clearly reflect this(save nok).

Whats so hard about admitting the geographic challenges present on the continent of Africa, and understanding how unfavorably they compare to the conditions in Europe?


Are you saying that if I dont blame cacs I'm c00ning? :dahell:
 

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Act like Europeans weren't getting their ass kicked for a 1000 years during the crusades :dead:

1000 years ago, europe was one of the most backward places on the planet, how do you explain how europeans were able to overcome their backwardness?
 
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