Why are predominately black countries mostly poor? in your opinion

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Who is that guy? I agree with alot of his points.

I've never heard of him but what he says sure as heck makes alot more sense to me than @Chris.B's "stop blaming whitey" and corrupt leaders. Well why i it Africa has so many corrupt leaders than anywhere else. Looks like the corrupt leaders are more symptoms and not the actual problem itself
 

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Banking = capitalism now :russ:

This dude is so damn dumb :laff::laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:


Claim countries who weren't capitalistic and mostly illiterate succeeded in imperialism because of capitalism and literacy, not steel, disease and deception :laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:


yeah banking is at the core of capitalism, is this suppose to be a controversial statement?

european expansion was built on capitalism, do you even know the history of colonialism and how corporations and banks financed colonial voyages?


relative to modern times europeans were illiterate, but relative to africa, literacy was widespread, the bulk of the european population was illiterate but the people that financed and led that european expansian werent illiterate, europeans had a writing system going back to the greeks and romans, west africa had no indigenous writing system

this gave the europeans a huge advantage

steel is technology, and again the europeans had more advanced technology than the africans, im not sure how that helps your point

as far as disease, this is how I know you are lying when you say you read GGS, because in that book diamond clearly explains that while africa was conquered politically it was never populated by europeans the way the americas was, whites were always a small population in africa unlike in the americas, and the reason was because their diseases killed the indians but it did not kill africans and quite the opposite, african diseases killed europeans and that is why africa is still black and americas are majority white, if you had read the book you would know this

as far as deception, yeah the europeans deceived and connived
 
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Since you going by the book so much. Explain to me how Africa went from having the richest countries in the world Mali and the western empires from 1400 to be enslaved in 100 years.

When you come with guns because civilize folks don't need weaponry that's what happens.


because africans fell behind technologically, and a lot of the european advancement was because of increasing literacy and capitalism
 

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I found this book, should be an interesting read. Apparently its one of the first works that pointed to European influence with respect to the underdevelopment in Africa/

Here's a pdf
http://www.blackherbals.com/walter_rodney.pdf

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this book is just marxist mumbo jumbo, just the title makes me want to throw up, anybody that thinks its the responsibility of europeans to develop africa is silly
 

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yeah banking is at the core of capitalism, is this suppose to be a controversial statement?

that doesn't make a system capitalistic :snoop:

european expansion was built on capitalism, do you even know the history of colonialism and how corporations and banks financed colonial voyages?

do you even know the history of colonialism? wtf is European expansion? European consolidation happened via tribes fighting :what:


relative to modern times europeans were illiterate, but relative to africa, literacy was widespread, the bulk of the european population was illiterate but the people that financed and led that european expansian werent illiterate, europeans had a writing system going back to the greeks and romans, west africa had no indigenous writing system

Arabic? And no, literacy wasn't widespread :leostare:

steel is technology, and again the europeans had more advanced technology than the africans, im not sure how that helps your point

Steel weapons doesn't mean all their tech was more advanced:russ:

as far as disease, this is how I know you are lying when you say you read GGS, because in that book diamond clearly explains that while africa was conquered politically it was never populated by europeans the way the americas was, whites were always a small population in africa unlike in the americas, and the reason was because their diseases killed the indians but it did not kill africans and quite the opposite, african diseases killed europeans and that is why africa is still black and americas are majority white, if you had read the book you would know this

you specifically asked why Europeans colonized while no one else did :why:
 

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Twism is one of the dumbest posters on this site. His answer to everything black or African related is Capitalism and Education. That's the only thing he knows....and not in a thoughtful, analytical, or nuanced way either. Just bland, gross, talking point, reflexive, devoid of examination, condescending way possible.

He really is a dumb fakkit.
 

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Rich countries produce and export goods and services and when done properly the profit improves the quality of life for the inhabitants of that country

For such a populous continent Africa isn't nearly productive enough and when they are the profits seen seem to dissipate being sucked up by foreigners and dirtbag leaders

I'm sure the coli smart nikkas will give you plenty of reasons and details as to what the fukk is going on in africa

And man most countries are fukked it's just that Americans and Europeans are much better entertained and distracted so it doesn't hit us the same

The 3rd world is 99% of the world IMO the same bullshyt mistakes being perpetuated with endless variety on every continent by every "race" of humanity jahahahaa//////

But like I said if you really wanna know just ask the all knowing coli smart nikkas

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this book is just marxist mumbo jumbo, just the title makes me want to throw up, anybody that thinks its the responsibility of europeans to develop africa is silly

I haven't read it and I'm not defending its merits but saying Europeans are the cause of the underdevelopment in Africa is not the same thing as saying Europeans should be responsible for developing Africa.
 

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that doesn't make a system capitalistic :snoop:

actually it does

Banking, in the modern sense of the word, is traceable to medieval and early Renaissance Italy, to rich cities in the north such as Florence, Venice, and Genoa.

"modern banking" and the invention of the corporation are the foundations of capitalism

im not really sure why that is being disputed or why that is controversial, i thought everybody knew this :lupe:

you mentioned adam smith and made a smiley, im simply pointing out the foundations of capitalism (banking and coroprations) existed way before adam smith, so what exactly does adam smith have to do with anything

do you even know the history of colonialism? wtf is European expansion? European consolidation happened via tribes fighting :what:

im referring to the european expansion mentioned in GGS, did you not read the book?

Arabic? And no, literacy wasn't widespread :leostare:

relative to africa, europe was literate

during the 1400's africa had no indigenous written languages, meanwhile the printing press was invented in europe in the 1400s

this gave europeean huge advanages and accelerated their development

Steel weapons doesn't mean all their tech was more advanced:russ:

yes it does, again, did you not read GGS? why do you think 'Steel" is in the title? steel was a technology that gave european an advantage and it did mean they had more advanced technology



you specifically asked why Europeans colonized while no one else did :why:

i never asked that question so i dont know what you are talking about

the question was asked why are black people so poor

you mentioned steel, disease and deception

im pointing out that in GGS, diamond specifically explains why disease worked to the advatange of africans, so for you to mention diseases in answering the question as to why black people are poor is just evidence that you never read the book, you just read the title
 

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It was all rigged from the beginning from the european invasion of Africa.

You hit the foundation that hard and you hurt the whole tree.

Notice that China, and the phillipines and such have never been invaded that badly by Europeans to where it was hit as hard as its invasion into Africa has.

Many of its people taken from the land as slaves and had their roots cut off.
 
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Twism is one of the dumbest posters on this site. His answer to everything black or African related is Capitalism and Education. That's the only thing he knows....and not in a thoughtful, analytical, or nuanced way either. Just bland, gross, talking point, reflexive, devoid of examination, condescending way possible.

He really is a dumb fakkit.

suk my dikk bytch

and yeah my answer is always education and capitalsim.............and?
 
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