Why are predominately black countries mostly poor? in your opinion

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Higher Learning

Then teach us dude

 

[theworldismine13]

Your opinion is based on shallow understanding of history. The "Barbarians" toppled Rome, the Mongols defeated China and sacked Baghdad. Two of the most civilized and educated places in the world at that time.


That's why it's hard to take anything you say seriously because you speak in absolutes and absolutes are rarely correct.

the question was asked, why are black people so poor

till this day the mongols are poor and they ceased to be relevant after a few generations

the toppling of rome started the dark ages which plunged millions of people into poverty and peasentry

the mongols and the barbarians never achieved the wealth of the romans or the chinese

so im answering the question why are black people poor and im saying literacy is part of the reason

why do empires rise and fall is not the same question as to why black people are poor, capish dumb fuk??

 

[Poitier]

Then teach us dude

He says Egypt isn't a part of Africa so idk if you want that

 

[Poitier]

the toppling of rome started the dark ages which plunged millions of people into poverty and peasentry

You don't say

so im answering the question why are black people poor and im saying literacy is part of the reason

why do empires rise and fall is not the same questions as to why black people are poor, capish dumb fuk??

Nope, still the same old idiot

 

[Micky Mikey]

the question was asked, why are black people so poor

till this day the mongols are poor and they ceased to be relevant after a few generations

the toppling of rome started the dark ages which plunged millions of people into poverty and peasentry

the mongols and the barbarians never achieved the wealth of the romans or the chinese

so im answering the question why are black people poor and im saying literacy is part of the reason

why do empires rise and fall is not the same questions as to why black people are poor, capish dumb fuk??

so are you saying that literacy is the equalizer in the equation? Educated people make smarter decisions when it comes to their own governance? If so, this only affirms the power of reading and education. It does open up your mind to different perspectives. But can education inspire an entire population to embrace new ideals of how to run a society and economy?

 

[theworldismine13]

And it doesn't matter. English isn't indigenous to America and yet most Americans are literate

i agree that it doesnt matter, my point is that not all africans were muslims, so the vast majority of africans were still illiterate and actually as the islamic empires died off literacy probably decreased

so by the time europeans sailed to west africa they were faced with an essential illterate population with old technology, that is where our poverty started

If you ignore trade, mecca and educational exchange then sure

again, lets remember diamonds point in that book that you claim to have read, that africa, relative to asia and europe has ALWAYS been sparesly populated and has had no unifying empire

so the fact that an empire like the mali empire was trading with mecca had little impact on the majority of africans, egypt, mali empire and african empires were not unifying empires for africa, they were regional empires

 

[theworldismine13]

so are you saying that literacy is the equalizer in the equation? Educated people make smarter decisions when it comes to their own governance? If so, this only affirms the power of reading and education. It does open up your mind to different perspectives. But can education inspire an entire population to embrace new ideals of how to run a society and economy?

literacy doesnt fix anything, but it sure helps

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He says Egypt isn't a part of Africa so idk if you want that

 

[Poitier]

i agree that it doesnt matter, my point is that not all africans were muslims, so the vast majority of africans were still illiterate and actually as the islamic empires died off literacy probably decreased

so by the time europeans sailed to west africa they were faced with an essential illterate population with old technology, that is where our poverty started

The Moors were still a thing when europeans sailed to west africa so it wasn't an illterate population with old technology

again, lets remember diamonds point in that book that you claim to have read, that africa, relative to asia and europe has ALWAYS been sparesly populated and has had no unifying empire

so the fact that an empire like the mali empire was trading with mecca had little impact on the majority of africans, egypt, mali empire and african empires were not unifying empires for africa, they were regional empires

And the Swahili Coast so yes.....it had impact on the majority of africans

 

[theworldismine13]

The Moors were still a thing when europeans sailed to west africa so it wasn't an illterate population with old technology

first of all lets get something straight, we are not moors, we are west african, we come from akan, yaruba and other west african peoples, and those people were illiterate for the most part, and even the muslims of west africa were mostly illiterate

so the africans europeans encountered were definetly illiterate and they definetly had old technology, they did not have steel and guns (hence the name of the book which you claim to have read)

And the Swahili Coast so yes.....it had impact on the majority of africans

again, africa has never had a unifying empire, the fact that some islamic kingdoms were trading with mecca had no impact on the vast majority of african, becuase the vast majority of africans were not muslim and were not part of regional islamic kingdoms and i wont even get into the fact that a lot of the "trade" between africa and the middle east was slave trading, that's another thread

 

[Micky Mikey]

somehow discussions of these sorts always revert to back to an emphasis on Africa's "glorious" past. I'm not downplaying the role of African civilizations but their existence obviously didn't do anything to effect the transatlantic slave trade nor does it bear any impact on the dire state of the continent today.

 

[Poitier]

first of all lets get something straight, we are not moors, we are west african, we come from akan, yaruba and other west african peoples, and those people were illiterate for the most part, and even the muslims of west africa were mostly illiterate

Moors and the Songhai,Mali were connected so you would be incorrect

so the africans europeans encountered were definetly illiterate and they definetly had old technology, they did not have steel and guns (hence the name of the book which you claim to have read)

Guns are not a synonym for technology

again, africa has never had a unifying empire, the fact that some islamic kingdoms were trading with mecca had no impact on the vast majority of african, becuase the vast majorty of african were not muslim and were not part of regional islamic kingdoms and i wont even get into the fact that a lot of the "trade" between africa and the middle east was slave trading, that's another thread

Mali-Moors-Egypt-Axum-Swahilii so you would be incorrect about "no impact on the vast majority of african"

 

[theworldismine13]

He says Egypt isn't a part of Africa so idk if you want that

i said egypt had little to no impact on the western parts and southern parts of africa, there is no evidence of there even being contact between them, there is no evidence of the literacy of the egyptians flowing out to the rest of the continent

this is not even getting into the fact that egypt is literally 4000 years old and europeans arrived in africa 500 years ago, which by that time egypt had been overurn by europeans (greeks and romans), then arabs and was about to be overan by euroepans once again, so im not even sure why egypt a 4000 year old empire is relevent

 

[Poitier]

i said egypt had little to no impact on the western parts and southern parts of africa, there is no evidence of there even being contact between them

Yes, the history books outlining trade between Mali, Arab Egypt and the Swahili Coast is made up

 

[theworldismine13]

Moors and the Songhai,Mali were connected so you would be incorrect

they were connections, but we are not "moors" neither do we want to be connected with moors, the moors were invovled in slave trading and involved in destroying african kingdoms and spreading their corny religion called islam

Mali-Moors-Egypt-Axum-Swahilii so you would be incorrect about "no impact on the vast majority of african"

again egypt is 4000 years old, it got over ran by the european alexander the great in the BC era, 2000 years ago

im sure there was trading going on but there is no evidence of vast trading all over africa, so it didnt impact most africans who were not muslim and did not have gold, unless you call getting captured by a slave trader, trading

Guns are not a synonym for technology

never said it was, guns is a symbol for tehnology, hence its use in the title of the book you claim to have read