My good sister, only the Baltimore link states there is a rise in youth violence, but the numbers it posted aren't being compared to anything so it's unclear that '23's rise in youth violence is a rise compared to, when? 2022? 2020? 2017? Is this an outlier year, etc...
Your other two links dont at all state there is a rise in youth crime...
I know you read this paragraph within that link:
For one, it’s only been since Dec. 1, 2019 that state Juvenile Justice officials collected criminal charge data on all North Carolinians 17 and younger. That is when most 16- and 17-year-olds were moved from North Carolina’s adult prosecution system to the more rehabilitative Juvenile Justice system. And, this uptick started during a pandemic that limited access to social services and shuttered schools while gun sales surged.
So when I was arrested and charged with shyt in 2005 and 2006, there was no tracking of youth crime offenses in NC. There was no Juvenile Justice system. You were charged as an adult, any crime you were charged with wasn't analyzed thru the lens of juvenile crime. So we have no way of knowing that Juvenile crime is worse today than it was in the mid-00s...
This absolutely affirms my earlier post that juvenile crime is being covered differently today. And if it's being covered differently in North Carolina than it was even 5 years ago (2018), logic says there's likely other states that are covering it differently than in eras past....
To be fair, I'll say there may be a slight increase because of the fallout of the pandemic but I'm not sure it's so drastic an increase that we can conclusively say teenagers today are more attracted to crime and violence, which is the premise of this thread, right?
Anecdotally, I'm not comparing the stated rise in youth crime to a year or two or three ago, I'm comparing it my teenage youth of nearly 20 years back. As a teenager:
•when I was in 8th grade, so this was 2002-03 school year, I knew a 14/15 year old who had a car on dubs and was making big money as a crack/coke dealer, probably on the level of vets 10 years older than him;
•I knew a guy, on the streets, who was 15 or 16 and stabbed a dude to death at a party and never even got charged with it;
•these articles focus on teenage killers, the list of teenage killers or attempted killers I knew was long. This is before I even go to prison, I'm strictly talking guys I either knew outside or met in county jail in VA and NC---->keep in mind, when I was a teenager they weren't tracking us as juveniles, we were all adults and thrown in adult jails and sent to adult yards:
Guy from Raleigh who got off on two murder charges before he was 18, I was in jail with him; 15 year old who was sent by an older cat to knock off his someone, he ended up with a body; 17 year old homeboy of mine started shooting at a party, never got charged, hit like two people; two of my homeboys (both 16) robbed and paralyzed and delivery driver; 16 year old shot two people at a drug store, one paralyzed, one dead; 15 year old rapist; 17 year old rapist; 16 year old who went to rob a corner store with his boys, had a shootout with the clerk, who killed and injured two of his boys but the 16 year old killed the clerk; 15 and 16 year old kidnapped and tied up a dude over a drug debt, beat him nearly to death; 17 year old who mobbed with older dudes and killed a dude at a party; 17 year old homeboy got sent up on home invasions; a different 17 year old homeboy was a serial robber; I knew a 14 and 15 year old robbing duo; 17 year old gun dealer, somehow this dude had a plug on guns at 17, I met him in county------>
But on the streets I knew a 17 year old gun dealer who had like a white work van and was driving around selling guns out his shyt. He's doing like 50 years now, and both he and the gun dealer I knew in county were both wild popular being young dudes who had it, and they weren't from the same part of town, didn't know each other...
Think about that, I knew TWO teenage gun plugs in little Fayetteville, North Carolina. This was nearly 2 decades ago. More than likely they weren't the only two in the city, they are just who I knew...
And I'm leaving off numerous cats who had robberies and assaults and firearm possessions and I'm forgetting more guys who had shootings and murders. I was three days after my 17th birthday, hit with home invasions, burglaries and stolen cars, by trade I was a weed, crack, lean dealer. My co-d was 16 and an experienced robber fir that age, hit with similar charges, and for two months or so after our arrest I was investigated for a rape, and he was investigated for a murder, in the area that we had been wilding at (neither of us were ever charged). This is after I was kicked outta 10th grade in VA for selling weed on campus...
Four or five of these accounts were in VA but the rest were in Fayetteville NC in the mid-00s and remember, none of these incidents in the mid-00s were recorded as juvenile crime. NC didn't do that. Now think about how many more of these guys I met in prison because North Carolina automatically hit you as an adult...
This is my frame of reference. It isn't everyone's. I get that. But because it's mine I don't see a dramatic rise in youth crime, though I'm sure there's been a little. I just think it's a catchy to characterize shyt as if its outta control...
