Why are there no DJ's working the streets finding hard tracks that

[JasonSJackson]

I do not know about now a days, how DJs actually made money of tapes change over the years...

Late 90s used to be that the DJ would have relationships with all the mom and pop stores and the stores would sell the tapes on consignment... DJ drops off 20 tapes/CDs at say burkena in the village, comes back in 2 weeks, if they all sold he gets 5 bucks a CD(completely made up number), if not he gets his cut of what actually sold and then reclaims the unsold joints... this involved a lot of legwork.

Early 2000s DJs used to supply the cover art and 'master' copy to the big duplicator bootleggers for a flat fee. DJ drops off the master to the few big duplicator gets 5000 bucks (completely made up numbers) cash and doesnt deal with the distribution leg work but makes much less money... basically DJs were getting bootlegged to death and had no choice but to just take a big paycut and work with the bootleggers... i remember a friend took me to a big duplicator around 34th street in midtown manhattan in like 2001, was like a warehouse of every CD and DVD ever and all the africans would buy their stock for 1 or 2 dollars a CD and then go sell them on the main strip of 34th for 5 bucks a CD.

by like mid 2000's DJs would make their bread off of the artists labels. So used to be if DJ Drama did a lil Wayne mixtape, it was cause Wayne's label came to him with promotional funds like here is 20K (completely making up that number no clue what the real numbers are like) to promote our artist... this really was a response to the fact the duplicators could just get web rips so fast and easy it wasnt worth them paying the DJs anything... but the game got fukked up here because when dj drama etc are doing stuff for 'free' cause the label paying him, a no name dj cant compete there just is no money in it without the labels...

Now of course the golden road is to release tapes as official albums but they get bootlegged to death, and the dj is responsible for getting all samples cleared etc so its a big headache unless yu are really at a khaled or funkmaster flex kinda level...

thats what i know but that info is like 8 years outta date not sure if theire is a new way to get money out of it... i know mid 2000s djs were trying to do podcasts with sponsors in them but it just didnt pan out financially...

i see what you sayin now

 

[Yoda]

yoooo... Coli should put out tapes with the hottest/best records every 3 or 4 weeks with mixing and scratching and shyt. or something. we can be the answer!

 

[scuba]

yoooo... Coli should put out tapes with the hottest/best records every 3 or 4 weeks with mixing and scratching and shyt. or something. we can be the answer!

would definitely be possible but you need to be immaculately consistent with your sh!t... its not that hard to distribute, but you really have to find a solid niche and be like clockwork consistency... but its definitely an idea if there are any real dope DJs on here, you would probably need a stable of djs who are seriously on their grind to make it work, and at least one non dj who handles all the minutia... i dont know if the money is worth it... but it might be

 

[Yoda]

would definitely be possible but you need to be immaculately consistent with your sh!t... its not that hard to distribute, but you really have to find a solid niche and be like clockwork consistency... but its definitely an idea if there are any real dope DJs on here, you would probably need a stable of djs who are seriously on their grind to make it work, and at least one non dj who handles all the minutia... i dont know if the money is worth it... but it might be

Everybody gets a say tho if this represents the coli.
Eastcoast,west, mid and the south.

 

[unit321]

Interesting.
I think that the same reason that Metallica was against pirated music being shared through napster and other digital content sharing sites is the same reason why DJ'ing became a profitless endeavor. Your mixtapes could easily be pirated and the DJ wouldn't make a dime for his talent/work.
The other part is that access to digital DJ equipment and music production software is more easily accessed by the masses so you can become a DJ if you spend enough time learning how to use the software applications and equipment. The hard part is being creative and making something new and fresh. There's good DJs and you have your amateur DJs... I hear a lot of crap re-mixes on youtube. Professionally done, but they are not sick mixes, just sickening.

 

[scuba]

Everybody gets a say tho if this represents the coli.
Eastcoast,west, mid and the south.

DJing aint no democracy... you cant upvote the 20 hot tracks this week and expect it to make a dope mix... DJing sometimes you throw in track B because it builds into track A or what have you... plus that democracy shyt is EXACTLY how you end up with the radio mainstream format of stuff... the stuff that pleases EVERYONE by definition is the lowest common denomination stuff... look at the threads on the coli you will get the same exact distribution with the coli mixtape all the 'relevant' artists would take up the whole mixtape... you need to find a dope core of DJs who have their finger on the pulse of thecoli not a voting system

there is a reason DJs pick a niche and stick to it...

anyways you know if you end up getting even 1000 mix views/downloads a week coli dudes gonna approach the DJs like here is 300 bucks to include my songs in the mix... thats the part i dont think yall aknowledging all the stuff you see happening in the real dj tape scene is going to happen here... i kinda want to be involved just as an experiment

 

[Yoda]

DJing aint no democracy... you cant upvote the 20 hot tracks this week and expect it to make a dope mix... DJing sometimes you throw in track B because it builds into track A or what have you... plus that democracy shyt is EXACTLY how you end up with the radio mainstream format of stuff... the stuff that pleases EVERYONE by definition is the lowest common denomination stuff... look at the threads on the coli you will get the same exact distribution with the coli mixtape all the 'relevant' artists would take up the whole mixtape... you need to find a dope core of DJs who have their finger on the pulse of thecoli not a voting system

there is a reason DJs pick a niche and stick to it...

anyways you know if you end up getting even 1000 mix views/downloads a week coli dudes gonna approach the DJs like here is 300 bucks to include my songs in the mix... thats the part i dont think yall aknowledging all the stuff you see happening in the real dj tape scene is going to happen here... i kinda want to be involved just as an experiment

word, i just wanna hear dope mixtapes again naw'mean? everyone too busy trying to put out the latest latest song even if it blows. maybe itll work out, maybe not. but at the least we tried doing something for the culture.

 

[scuba]

word, i just wanna hear dope mixtapes again naw'mean? everyone too busy trying to put out the latest latest song even if it blows. maybe itll work out, maybe not. but at the least we tried doing something for the culture.

I am with you homie... lets make it happen whos the general of this sh!t... i will help where i can

 

[The Ruler 09]

There should be, that's one of the best things a DJ can do, and it benefits everyone.

 

[Yoda]

I am with you homie... lets make it happen whos the general of this sh!t... i will help where i can

If you down, you seem pretty knowledgable on this. i just want to listen,man.

 

[The Dust King]

count me in. matter of fact this is gonna work out perfect.

 

[scuba]

If you down, you seem pretty knowledgable on this. i just want to listen,man.

I got no DJ skills homie, i can handle the minutia but this whole thing is dead until a DJ wants to step up to bat

 

[Art Barr]

Good content in this thread.

Art Barr

 

[KillSpray]

I used to think about this all the time too. There doesn't seem to be a business model that works here, being that datpiff and so on have taken commerce out of the mixtape game. DJ Drama and them make their bread up front for "hosting" the tape. He's more of a persona than a DJ at this point, as are most the big name DJs.

The traditional mixtape is definitely needed tho in this climate where the market is saturated we need those trusted names filtering thru all this shyt.

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

Because that requires work