Why aren't Middle Class/Upper Middle Class blacks taking advantage of "gentrification"? Or Are they?

[Apollo Creed]

It seems mainly White people do the whole Urban Pioneering thing, why dont young well to do blacks jump on the same wave? I know in Atl there are parts of SW ATL that is being "gentrified" by Middle Class blacks, but it still pales to how whites are gentrifying every other part of the city.

For places like Harlem, BK, parts of LA, etc. Why do you think middle class blacks abandon these areas, then get mad when Whites set up shop?

 

[Couth]

Blacks don't abandon those areas. Blacks get pushed out of those areas.

First they remodel the area. Then all the hipsters start moving in. Then rents rise. Whole neighborhood loses it culture and becomes hipsterized. Most of the black people can no longer afford to live there. And the ones who can don't want to live there cuz it doesn't make sense economically especially when the rest of their community is leaving anyway.

I watched it happen in my city. Blacks didn't abandon shyt. But over the course of like ten years they pushed the majority of the minorities out and turned it into a hipster hood. And the majority of the blacks from those areas ended up having to move to the outskirts where its cheaper.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Yes and no. Yes they are because a select few (the corporate blacks who have no flavor and could give a shyt about "culture") black folks who cut in with the Philanthropy Industrial Complex and the Start Up complex make good money through gentrification.

But no, because only a select few will ever see the benefits of it.

Blacks didn't abandon the city when gentrification came...look at your uncles and aunties and family that took they tax dollars out of the cities in the 90's and 2000's when it coulda really helped.

 

[Colicat]

 

[Fart Knocker]

they would, but they are afraid of being called c00ns on the coli

 

[Apollo Creed]

Blacks don't abandon those areas. Blacks get pushed out of those areas.

First they remodel the area. Then all the hipsters start moving in. Then rents rise. Whole neighborhood loses it culture and becomes hipsterized. Most of the black people can no longer afford to live there. And the ones who can don't want to live there cuz it doesn't make sense economically especially when the rest of their community is leaving anyway.

I watched it happen in my city. Blacks didn't abandon shyt. But over the course of like ten years they pushed the majority of the minorities out and turned it into a hipster hood. And the majority of the blacks from those areas ended up having to move to the outskirts where its cheaper.

Upper Middle Class blacks dont live in areas that get gentrified. It is usually lower income blacks who can't afford property tax hikes/ rent hikes, thus they are pushed out. Upper Middle Class blacks tend to live in burbs.

 

[Sierra Mist]

It's not enough upper class/upper middle class blacks to take over a big white area. Small area? Sure. Plus white people ain't having that shyt.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yes and no. Yes they are because a select few (the corporate blacks who have no flavor and could give a shyt about "culture") black folks who cut in with the Philanthropy Industrial Complex and the Start Up complex make good money through gentrification.

But no, because only a select few will ever see the benefits of it.

Blacks didn't abandon the city when gentrification came...look at your uncles and aunties and family that took they tax dollars out of the cities in the 90's and 2000's when it coulda really helped.

Yea in the 90s most blacks I knew moved out the hood and to the burbs, white flight happened and former white burbs became black suburbs, the issue was blacks didnt build a damn thing in these burbs + the mortgage crisis with folks getting stuff they couldn't afford, so many of the "hot" black burbs of ATL for example went down the drain when the bubble bursted, while white burbs in northern ATL were literally unaffected. I ask myself, in ATL for example, when they started tearing down projects after the Olympics, why didnt we set up shop in the intown neighborhoods? The only thing I can think of is the City didnt focus on cleaning up crime until whites moved to the former hoods, and the crime and such were never fixed just pushed to the outer burbs.

 

[Apollo Creed]

It's not enough upper class/upper middle class blacks to take over a big white area. Small area?Sure. Plus white people ain't having that shyt.

I`m not talking about taking over large areas. Non Blacks are Gentrifying areas that were consider "our hoods" from the 60s-90s.

 

[Apollo Creed]

For example, I have said in the past on here, ATL if literally throwing money at people to buy in hoods they want to gentrify. The ATL housing Authority is all black, and begging blacks to move in , yet blacks are on that . In turn young hipster whites are taking advantage of the grant money, getting homes DIRT CHEAP. Crime in the city is at a historic all time low, so crime aint even the issue. I try putting people on game and they be on that "mane I`m trying to get a condo in Sandy Springs "

 

[Sierra Mist]

I`m not talking about taking over large areas. Non Blacks are Gentrifying areas that were consider "our hoods" from the 60s-90s.

I read your post wrong. I think its because when black folks get money they wanna move out the hood and into the burbs. It's considered a promotion and a "I made it' type thing.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

I felt like I did by moving to New York.

But to be honest, there arent that many of us taking advantage of it. Mainly because most are struggling to launch their careers and have been even with having degrees. Therefore that leads to most blacks that would probably love to live in these type of areas not being able to cause they can't afford it and being stuck in their hometowns or choosing somewhere else they dont really like. I really hate going to places like BedStuy and Crown Heights and seeing more of them moving in and more of us getting priced out. That's why I moved to NYC in the first place, to be around more black people and less whites.

But seeing how America is going with gentrification, hipsterfication, I wouldn't be surpised if these neighborhoods just end up almost exclusively white and asian like Williamsburg and Greenpoint (two of my least favorite neighborhoods in NYC.

 

[Citi Trends]

they dont want anything to do with the hood

 

[Apollo Creed]

I felt like I did by moving to New York.

But to be honest, there arent that many of us taking advantage of it. Mainly because most are struggling to launch their careers and have been even with having degrees. Therefore that leads to most blacks that would probably love to live in these type of areas not being able to cause they can't afford it and being stuck in their hometowns or choosing somewhere else they dont really like. I really hate going to places like BedStuy and Crown Heights and seeing more of them moving in and more of us getting priced out. That's why I moved to NYC in the first place, to be around more black people and less whites.

But seeing how America is going with gentrification, hipsterfication, I wouldn't be surpised if these neighborhoods just end up almost exclusively white and asian like Williamsburg and Greenpoint (two of my least favorite neighborhoods in NYC.

I believe the goal is for Cities to be completely hipster/1% type, while the outer burbs is where all the blacks/crime is, and being that the crime wouldn't be in the city it won't even be a PR issue as ATL, NYC, LA,etc can brag about non existent crime while the burbs are war zones. I think non blacks who can't afford to live in Cities will continue to move out to more rural exburbs ie. Woodstock in GA.

 

[iBrowse]

@bdizzle should have been here for this