Yet can you prove a "God" doesn't exist? Stop it.
No. And i never claimed to be able to. The best you can do is move the goalposts when deities are investigated. As all modern theists do.
You and other atheist are just a small spec in the universe. You as a tiny spec in the universe, how do you know whats false and whats not? We as human's can't prove a God exist nor can we prove that one doesn't exist.
So?
The point is that if you assert XYZ exists, we can test those specific claims. No one is going beyond that.
Has nothing to do with the point I was making in this thread.
Yes it does. If we can demonstrably prove a religious claim wrong, then that aspect of the religion is wrong.
This seems like an emotional rant than a rational one.
False. The catholic church held all these views then abandoned them, now because they adopt like 2 universally true scientific statements, then you forget all the shyt they stubbornly got wrong.
And the belief that the Jews killed Jesus is a dated belief... One mostly held by people who are Anti-Semitic(And I hate that word)
Imagine if the catholic church had some fukking balls to stand up to the Nazis instead of coming out in the 1960s and permitting all that antisemitism by saying the jews didn't kill jesus:
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/03/jews-laud-popes-insistence-jews-did-not-kill-jesus/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/01/jews-killed-jesus-adl-survey_n_4191568.html
Just proves that some of you atheist don't do you're homework... The Romans killed Jesus, for the crime of "majestas" - setting himself up as king in opposition to Caesar. That's why Pilate ordered a titulus to be placed on the cross reading "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews". Crucifixion was a Roman practice(NOT a Jewish one) and abhorrent under Jewish law (Psalm 22). The mistaken idea that the Jews killed Jesus led to centuries of persecution. Hell Jews themselves were being nailed to a crucifix daily by the Romans.
I don't debate theology. This is about the stance of the catholic church.
As for the bolded, its not only the most ridiculous thing, but shows you just skimmed through most of the things I said. How the hell are they changing/adopying shyt when they were one of the FIRST repeat FIRST to pioneer those sciences!
They didn't pioneer the sciences.
They FUNDED scientific experiments and adopted them only up until they didn't conflict with central theological dogma.
The german church funding improvements in glass technology or astronomy which were both state-secrets until the 1800s doesn't challenge or change much in the same way metallurgy improvements doesn't change much in the bible until you start asking central questions usually addressed by the existence of deities...namely human origins.
This is why Newton is less threatening to the church than Darwin.
Even still, Newton faced criticism and was outright called a heretic in many circles because he asseted gravity was all it took to keep the planets in motion, not the hand of god.
Wait so you're citation is Sam Harris? The same Harris who tries to reject Islamophobia and most of his claims have been stated to be baseless science?
1. fukk islam. Theres no such thing as islamophobia.
2. He's a neuroscientist and whose views I have found (based on my own education beyond the graduate level) to be wholly substantiated with modern science.
That video is on another example of him, because as I am watching most of his claims are bias. He seems to believe that those moderate Muslims are somehow safe guarding the extremist.
Moderates want credit for not taking their religion seriously. Do you not see the problem here?
Who said anyone should become Jewish? I said if blacks want to practice religion then they should do so like the Jews and Catholics where its money, power and influence. That was basically my whole idea in this thread.
Read this sentence and you'll understand the inherent contradiction.