Why can't Kendrick just make normal music like he used to.

[feelosofer]

Kendrick's music hasn't changed all that much, imo. It's the production which has evolved.

 

[BlackMamba824]

I can't go with that. When you say someone perfected their sound, you're saying that you feel that it is when he perfected a certain style that suits him and which he makes his best music in. That can vary from person to person. It's why people like different eras of artists. As for K. Dot, people are not very articulate. What they're saying is that they don't feel this neo-Jazz, soul, spoken word, hip hop shyt he's doing. They feel like it's contrived like Doug's sister Judy. I'm a Kendrick fan, but I just don't enjoy listening to a lot of this shyt nor am I enamored with his rapid fire flow on every song while the underlying bars themselves are not that hard.

People say "Section 80" on steroids as if that needed to be put on steroids. If Kendrick was a battle rapper he would the equivalent to the point last year when nikkas was asking for the Lux with the hoody back.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

His only "normal" album was his early mixtapes and GKMC every other album has been on that different vibe. Your a casual fan and want to keep that man in a box. When he is an artist and true artist learn to push the envelope. That's what makes them great. Music is not just for your entertainment. It can be deep and it can be extremely artistic.

So ripping the production is trying to keep someone in a box?

Most people don't have a problem with the lyrical content. The beats are fukking wack on most of his songs. And that goes for every TDE project after GKMC.


And just because it sounds different don't automatically make it hot.

Pete Rock an Qtip brought jazz influence to hip hop but it was DOPE.

 

[YouMadd?]

fukk outa here man. Dude has a team of people creating his sound. It's pretty telling that once he got with thundercat and crew, his sound changed profusely. He's not writing all those bridges and hooks, breakdowns, beat changes, etc,etc. Hell with the way rap is today I wouldn't be surprised if he had help writing his own verses.

Have you ever played music in a band before? "A team of people creating sound"... That's what a band is. Kendrick is apart of a band.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Have you ever played music in a band before? "A team of people creating sound"... That's what a band is. Kendrick is apart of a band.

That band and their sound existed long before Kendrick got with them

 

[I AM WARHOL]

I really fux with TPAB for the most part tho

It's not terrible Imo, but I will say I think good kid mad city is miles and miles ahead of it.

To me that cd is perfect and what I wish Rappers like nas would understand
You can make conscience music over banging beats. It doesn't have to be a boring ass beat.

TPAB was good to me. But not great .7/10

Good kid mad city is a classic

That untitled cd had some bangers. I understand sequencing but I wish 2,7 and 8 were on there mastered

@I AM WARHOL

On point with that lupe album. It's amazing and I still play it in my car everyday. Cd is the definition of what I described about Kendrick. Lupe finally understands you can have a message over production that bangs. My favorite cd of the year

It makes me sick how sleep people are on tetsuo and youth. This is how I know it's all a popularity contest. Lupe put out a phenomenal album but gets 0 love

 

[Kaypain]

Kendrick's music hasn't changed all that much, imo. It's the production which has evolved.

THIS as well

 

[NoHalfWay]

They don't hate his message, they hate his style. They loved him when it was GKMC. Was that not an expression of himself? I see it both ways. People need to stop going with this "higher ground, moralist" route when discussing music the same way people need to let go of the "does it bang in the whip" mentality. As much as I like a lot of posters in the Booth, I feel like I am the only one who consistently does this. People switch up when it's an artist they love. I think it's entirely fair to dislike Kendrick's current style. The vast majority of people admit that it's harder to listen to than GKMC. Kendrick is the reason it's harder. Musically it is remarkable, but whenever you're trying to genre-bend like that the vocalist is very important. Kendrick's voice is harsh on a lot of these tracks and doesn't really bring them alive. Take King Kunta for example, I can see why people like it (I can see why people like anything) but someone with a smoother flow from the West Coast i.e. Snoop would've made it sound better.

Take "i", he is literally the worst part of the song. That 'everybody lack confident, everybody lack confident" part with his voice was awful.

cosign this.

Kendrick experiments a lot and uses his voice as an instrument. Sometimes it works and other times not so much, or it just isn't necessary.

My main gripe is with this album is the voice inflections he uses for artistic expression... they're really, really, really wack sometimes. Like the "For Free" and "For Sale" skits. "This dihk ain't freeeeee, baaaaby", "looshy looshy" . Or the worst one, "u". Listening to "Lovin u is complicaTEHHH" coupled with a hard breathing struggle flow for 2 minutes, then getting hit with this irritating ass drunk/crying voice in the second half of the song can take its toll on a nikka's ears . I get the concept of the records and what's he's trying to emotionally convey, but sonically it doesn't sound half as appealing as when he's just rapping. To me, that's what trying too hard to be artistic sounds like, and it ultimately reduces the replay value of certain songs. Kanye is guilty of similar shyt.

It's like you said, the production and musical composition is top-notch but the performance by the MC on SOME of the songs falls short. But still, I believe there's plenty of brilliant moments on Kendrick's part in To Pimp A Butterfly.

 

[YouMadd?]

That band and their sound existed long before Kendrick got with them

You say that as if hip hop is constantly bringing new sounds to the table

Who cares if the sound was "already established"?

Miles Davis had a sound already and that didn't stop Coltrane or Herbie Hancock from jointing his band and continuing the same sound.

This is what music is supposed to be. Artists collaborating and creating art.

Only on the coli is it a bad thing for a prodigy like thundercat to work with the best mainstream lyricist alive because "the sound already existed"

Like, none of you nikkas was listening to Glasper or Thundercat before anyways!

 

[cartierhoe]

my nikka

never seen you hating on an artist.. always showing love

All about that positivity breh salute

 

[NoHalfWay]

It makes me sick how sleep people are on tetsuo and youth. This is how I know it's all a popularity contest. Lupe put out a phenomenal album but gets 0 love

He gets plenty of love and respect from his rap peers and legends.

It's just hard for coli brehs to accept that there's someone better than Jay-Z in the wordplay department, so they try to act like he don't exist or throw shade

 

[Dushane Hill]

Agree with OP.....there a reason I still listen to GKMC and forgot about TPAB a week after it came out.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You say that as if hip hop is constantly bringing new sounds to the table

Who cares if the sound was "already established"?

Because you tried to claim Kendrick was the creative force behind the sound. That's obviously not the case.

Miles Davis had a sound already and that didn't stop Coltrane or Herbie Hancock from jointing his band and continuing the same sound.

Kendrick isn't a producer/composer/instrumentalist

This is what music is supposed to be. Artists collaborating and creating art.

Only on the coli is it a bad thing for a prodigy like thundercat to work with the best mainstream lyricist alive because "the sound already existed"​

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What?

Like, none of you nikkas was listening to Glasper or Thundercat before anyways!
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Neither did any of you Kendrick stans, who are now claiming this sound is so amazing
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[jadillac]

I thought tpab was horrible. Actually in an argument about it right now

No offense, but there's something wrong with you all who have this opinion.

It's like, you're not LISTENING. You hear the music, but ur not LISTENING.

You don't have to love it as much as the media....but there's something wrong if you say it's horrible.

 

[Prodigital]

Now that I think about it

You right OP, all rappers should rap the same. fukk all that experimentation shyt. Thanks breh.