Why can't Left wing Black people have honest conversations about Abortion?

[semicko82]

I reject the premise that its about sanctity of human life, if that was the case this folks will be ardently against the death penalty which multiple studies have shown have sent innocent folks to be executed as punishment, one innocent life lost alone for a crime not committed as a disgrace.
Its about control. The moment this kids are born same conservatives want to cut welfare programs, school lunch programs, defund schools, they want to make it harder to receiver social benefits, they basically turn the child destitute or a high degree of being because the will be in poverty.

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[Voice of Reason]

@Rhakim

 

[coldcall]

Yes, you are killing a "fetus" that would have eventually been a baby.

Yes, 20 plus million Black fetuses have been aborted.

Yes, that has curtailed the Black population.

Yes, Black people are aborting at a higher rate.


Having said all of that I still don't think abortion should be banned.


Let's just have an honest conversation.

So basically you're pro choice

 

[Cornershooter]

Left and right wing black people are in a constant state in denial about everything they believe. They both take white ideologies And apply it to their black life .

Imagine looking in a mirror seeing black skin and thinking that voting is going to save you

Imagine the black demographic not growing in decades and thinking abortion is a black issuse . I’m pro choice by default because I mind my own business but it still makes me laugh

Imagine thinking the whole world is against you a voting for another white man

 

[Voice of Reason]

So basically you're pro choice

Yes, I'm uncomfortable with the effects of abortion at such high rates in our community yet I'm still pro choice.

I just think that abortion is too normalized and the abortion rate is too high, 19 million babies aborted since the 70's is staggering.

 

[At30wecashout]

Comparing sperm and a fetus is ludicrous and non sensical. Again you all are doing a horrible job at this debate.

Under gestation, does a sperm not have the capability to become a fetus which eventually can become a baby? Its literally just a few steps before.

Mind you this is a tongue-in-cheek stance I am taking, but with as many ill-conceived arguments for or against, this one isn't too far fetched.

Criminalizing masturbation

Believe it or not, it is actually a conversation. The above link was just one nuts example.

 

[Dipsey Doo]

Yes, you are killing a "fetus" that would have eventually been a baby.

Yes, 20 plus million Black fetuses have been aborted.

Yes, that has curtailed the Black population.

Yes, Black people are aborting at a higher rate.


Having said all of that I still don't think abortion should be banned.


Let's just have an honest conversation.

I’m taking a different tack here: These ultra liberal brehs have been indoctrinated via music and media that black lives have no value (unless a white person commits the killing) their entire existence. It’s no surprise that these cats glorify killing their own children because it’s inconvenient.

They’ve rejected Christian values (which was the basis in the fight to obtain Civil Rights) and adopted secular values which is pretty much anything goes.

Add in how society has been less and less social since the advent of the internet age, which reduces their level of empathy and understanding how they view their fellow neighbors.

I pity them more than anything

 

[Voice of Reason]

Left and right wing black people are in a constant state in denial about everything they believe. They both take white ideologies And apply it to their black life .

Imagine looking in a mirror seeing black skin and thinking that voting is going to save you

Imagine thinking the whole world is against you a voting for another white man

So you are a don't vote person


Anyone with a basic knowledge of ADOS history understands how stupid that stance is

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Comparing sperm and a fetus is ludicrous and non sensical. Again you all are doing a horrible job at this debate.

The point is comparing a fetus under 13 weeks and afterwards is just as ludicrous.

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

It is for some religions, who are you to decide what is or isn't a potential person?

That goes both way then. Who are those religions to decide what is or isn’t a potential person? If you don’t want to get an abortion because of your religion, cool. But don’t tell someone else what they can not do with THEIR fetus in THEIR body.

Edit: Some religions say you should go to church every Sunday. Why should they decide who goes to church or not. Mind your own business.

 

[Elim Garak]

Yes, I'm uncomfortable with the effects of abortion at such high rates in our community yet I'm still pro choice.

I just think that abortion is too normalized and the abortion rate is too high, 19 million babies aborted since the 70's is staggering.

I've said this several times but if people wanted to really get the issue under control they would provide better sex education, better economic opportunities, and make contraceptives more widely accessible and cheaper. Instead they are doing the opposite.

 

[Voice of Reason]

I’m taking a different tack here: These ultra liberal brehs have been indoctrinated via music and media that black lives have no value (unless a white person commits the killing) their entire existence. It’s no surprise that these cats glorify killing their own children because it’s inconvenient.

They’ve rejected Christian values (which was the basis in the fight to obtain Civil Rights) and adopted secular values which is pretty much anything goes.

Add in how society has been less and less social since the advent of the internet age, which reduces their level of empathy and understanding how they view their fellow neighbors.

I pity them more than anything

White Christian nationalism has been the basis for terror and discrimination against Black people since we have been in this country so I don't think Christian values are necessarily our savior.

I do think Ultra Liberal feminism has convinced Black women that abortion is the key to upward mobility though.

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

I’m taking a different tack here: These ultra liberal brehs have been indoctrinated via music and media that black lives have no value (unless a white person commits the killing) their entire existence. It’s no surprise that these cats glorify killing their own children because it’s inconvenient.

They’ve rejected Christian values (which was the basis in the fight to obtain Civil Rights) and adopted secular values which is pretty much anything goes.

Add in how society has been less and less social since the advent of the internet age, which reduces their level of empathy and understanding how they view their fellow neighbors.

I pity them more than anything

What are you babbling about here?

 

[Cornershooter]

So you are a don't vote person


Anyone with a basic knowledge of ADOS history understands how stupid that stance is

I get money

I don’t need a white politician to save me

I don’t vote blue or red . I chase green

I make enough money at this point if shyt got crazy in America which it never will I would just move

Imagine begging a white Man every 4 years to make your life better then they get your vote and pay you dust then repeating the cycle and getting mad at other black people who don’t play the game with you

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

White Christian nationalism has been the basis for terror and discrimination against Black people since we have been in this country so I don't think Christian values are necessarily our savior.

I do think Ultra Liberal feminism has convinced Black women that abortion is the key to upward mobility though.

Where did you get this assumption from? How is abortion and upward mobility is correlated?