Why can't Left wing Black people have honest conversations about Abortion?

[Chrishaune]

At some point you're going to hear the truth, and you probably aren't going to like it, but you're going to hear it anyway, because you are given a choice. Live for yourself or live for your True purpose. Most people choose to live for themselves. That's why the world is the way it is today.

Don't get mad because somebody is telling you the truth. How else can it be said that you were given a choice if you didn't hear the Truth at some point. You've heard right from wrong, choose what you want to do. There won't be any excuses on the Great Day. That was your choice.

 

[Seoul Gleou]

injecting morality and binary politcs into shyt like this is fukking retarded. there are many, many countries in the world that have moved past this topic.

spain is giving tampons away for free and giving women days off during their periods

america is forcing women to go back to work after they deliver an unwanted baby and has draconian maternal leave policies. when those babies are growing, they get shot up in school, fed shyt food, and are poorly educated.

if we want to have an "honest conversation" lets talk about the environment that breeds these discussions. america is a shythole from the perspective of the rest of the developed world.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

This is why party lines suck not everyone has the same values

 

[Json]

Nobody wants to be proactive anymore. Everything is reactive. Until this verdict can be changed back to a more favorable outcome, what are you going to do to protect yourself? Absolutely nobody can answer this because it doesn't involve emotions and requires accountability.

Proactive…. Like teaching kids about their bodies and using condoms and birth control…

Oh wait, the same ultra Conservatives didn’t like that cause you have to have responsible conversation about tough subjects with young teens and those parents wanted to have it on their own terms.

The same ones also saying we should reconsider contraception as privacy.

 

[Json]

Yes, you are killing a "fetus" that would have eventually been a baby.

Yes, 20 plus million Black fetuses have been aborted.

Yes, that has curtailed the Black population.

Yes, Black people are aborting at a higher rate.


Having said all of that I still don't think abortion should be banned.


Let's just have an honest conversation.

Have an honest conversation with people aren’t being honest about why they are doing it…. Seems futile

 

[Wildhundreds]

Proactive…. Like teaching kids about their bodies and using condoms and birth control…

Oh wait, the same ultra Conservatives didn’t like that cause you have to have responsible conversation about tough subjects with young teens and those parents wanted to have it on their own terms.

The same ones also saying we should reconsider contraception as privacy.

You can't have these conversations in the privacy of your own home though? And why does it have to be tough? I've talked about sex, STDs and the consequences with my children while they were in grade school.

For people to sit up and talk to strangers online 24/7, they sure have a hard time discussing things with people who really mean something to them.

 

[Marc Spector]

Its stupid because youre shifting the point from WHY SO MANY BLACK WOMEN ARE GETTING ABORTIONS

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

I agree @voicit is what it is...people just need to be honest with theirselves without feeling bad about it or want to defend it

 

[Wubzy]

They’ve rejected Christian values (which was the basis in the fight to obtain Civil Rights)

Many civil rights leaders were socialists. The Black Panthers were Maoists (with Newton himself being pro-LGBT rights)

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Its easier to skip the nuance of the topic and simply label everyone against it as women haters. Admitting that its not that simple would severely hurt messaging.

Its not really in either sides interest to be honest about the issue.

That's why we call ourselves pro choice. I personally hate abortion, but support the ability of those who need one to get one. It's not my business, and definitely not the state's.

 

[Koapa]

Its crazy this country dont know how to compromise any issue or topic. Abortion should be legal and have a cut-off date or week. If its 12-15 weeks then let it be.

Problem solved.

 

[Json]

You can't have these conversations in the privacy of your own home though? And why does it have to be tough? I've talked about sex, STDs and the consequences with my children while they were in grade school.

For people to sit up and talk to strangers online 24/7, they sure have a hard time discussing things with people who really mean something to them.

Good. But your kids are living outside your house.

Where their friends are getting misinformed by a Redditor. A Colibreh. Their own dumb parents.

So what is wrong with making sure the kids interacting with them have the same good information.

 

[Wubzy]

You can't have these conversations in the privacy of your own home though? And why does it have to be tough? I've talked about sex, STDs and the consequences with my children while they were in grade school.

For people to sit up and talk to strangers online 24/7, they sure have a hard time discussing things with people who really mean something to them.

Many parents would not and do not teach sex ed. Many also aren't qualified to

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Those stats mean nothing to mean, quality of life trumps birth rate. Everybody who spouts stats like that will never say anything about what they would do to help take care of those babies if they were born, they just wont more numbers to help facilitate whatever imaginary, weirdo battle thats going on in their head. If you care about the community, do something to help take care of the kids we ha

 

[Fill Collins]

Having more children isn't a bandaid for a group's issues.

Do you honestly expect the women who would've aborted to suddenly raise their unwanted children to be the, "next Malcolm or Martin"?

Do you think there wouldn't be an uptick in "at-home" abortions where there's way, way more risk? Or way more children being abandoned?