Why Did 80s Legends Fall Off So Fast?

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You deleted you Thisis50 profile MIC don't play dumb:umad:


So much irrelevance here…….:banderas:



Pull up some old threads or posts then. They should still be kicking around even with a deleted profile right? Post Em. Receipts or gtfo

And struggling to sell 100k in 2014 is not relevant
 

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Pull up some old threads or posts then. They should still be kicking around even with a deleted profile right? Post Em. Receipts or gtfo

And struggling to sell 100k in 2014 is not relevant

Thisis50 deletes your entire post history when you delete your account, don't play dumb you trolling shythead :comeon::russ:
 

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You kinda of answered your own question. Along with the point being made of a strong class of talent this happens in ever era of music.

Golden Era (86-92): Rick, Kane lost some of their steam but LL and KRS remained relevant through at least the mid-90's if not longer
Silver Era (Regional Expansion) (93-98): The Pharcyde, Bone Thugz, Mobb Deep, The Fugees, lost their steam but Jay, Nas, Kast, Snoop remained relevant and still arguably are today
Bling Era (99 - '04): DMX, Juvenile, Mase, Missy (c'mon yall she was HOT at this time), but Wayne, T.I., Kanye, Eminem and 50
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Hip Hop is dead Era ('05 - '10): Beanie, Game aren't really relevant anymore. Honestly, there's only one artist from this time that I think is still relevant :heh:

Looks like this last era really is a piece of shyt when it comes to overall contribution to the hip hop lexicon.
kanye, jeezy, seargent Harris.
 

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You kinda of answered your own question. Along with the point being made of a strong class of talent this happens in ever era of music.

Golden Era (86-92): Rick, Kane lost some of their steam but LL and KRS remained relevant through at least the mid-90's if not longer
Silver Era (Regional Expansion) (93-98): The Pharcyde, Bone Thugz, Mobb Deep, The Fugees, lost their steam but Jay, Nas, Kast, Snoop remained relevant and still arguably are today
Bling Era (99 - '04): DMX, Juvenile, Mase, Missy (c'mon yall she was HOT at this time), but Wayne, T.I., Kanye, Eminem and 50
dBYjK2S.png

Hip Hop is dead Era ('05 - '10): Beanie, Game aren't really relevant anymore. Honestly, there's only one artist from this time that I think is still relevant :heh:

Looks like this last era really is a piece of shyt when it comes to overall contribution to the hip hop lexicon.
How you gonna classify X as Bling Era when he single-handedly dismantled that shyt n brought griminess back into the game?
 

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Great thread topic...

I think the question is more is it a good things that rappers have so much longevity these days. I would argue that hip hop was better when every few years it was totally different.
 

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felt like the Rakim's, BDP's, Slick Rick, Kool G Rap etc had a run from like 88 to 92, then baam, out of nowhere, they were treated like this era's 50 Cent, Nelly's, Ja Rule's in terms of relevancy...

you can point to the emergence of Biggie, Wu Tang, Nas etc. .. but did their style just fade fast? or somethin else
That's how rap is. Most artists get a 5 year run. If you go to 7, you will last in the game for more years to come. It might be like that with most musical artists but, it's definitely like that for rap artists.
 

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Ra didn't fall off, he had contract issues with Eric B then came back and dropped a critically acclaimed platinum album. :ld::obama:
I'm not knocking it but, a lot of the acclaim was because it was pushed hard by Universal, and we hadn't heard form him in a while. He had a big budget for that album. Noticed after that, his second album wasn't treated the same way. The same for slick rick. He had that outkast song making noise, and def jam pushed the fact he was home from jail, even though he had been home for at least two years before the album was released. Record companies are good at altering your perception of things so you will buy their products. It seem to work most of the time.
 

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Krs had his highest selling album in 1997.


Kane sold out

Rakim is an enigma who came back out 12 years after his debut and went gold

G Rap is everyone's hero

LL sold records from 1985-2000 something

Rick went gold in 1998
1-Puffy helped a big deal with his "step into a world" remix. I forgot how much the record company paid for that remix but, it was some good change. They made sure they was going to recoup after that.

2-Big budget, and people missed him, so they wanted to see what his new shyt would be like. That album got a big push from the label.

3-Still never sold, so he's only certain people's favorite. He's still nice to me though.

4-LL always knew how to work the music industry/entertainment industry which is why he is still around.

5-Slick rick went gold because of the outkast hype from "the art of story telling", and it was pushed that he just came home. People was buying music back then, as long as your label pushed the product.
 
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The 80s and the 90s was like night and day.

But honestly, the rappers (some of them) from the 80s were able to find new ground and stay afloat then...chubb rock, slick rick, rakim, etc come to mind.

Much more than rock...all them hair bands like Ratt, Motley Crue, Poison, were rendered irrelovent by the grunge movement come 1992.

By 1994 (which I consider the most defining year of the 90s) it was just a different world. TBH the mid to late 90s was probably the last exciting time in music for me. So many artists were coming out, MTV still played music videos, music stores were still poppin on many levels...the magazine game was interesting cause there was variety before everything started becoming corporatized and condensed and stripped down. By Spring of 1999 it was all coming to an end, which was in the fall of 1999.

2000s was nice cause you had 80s, 90s, legends sharing the same space as the new up and comers, but by 08...whatever.

I think other than Kanye and some others, this current era has no real legends.
 

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1-Puffy helped a big deal with his "step into a world" remix. I forgot how much the record company paid for that remix but, it was some good change. They made sure they was going to recoup after that.

2-Big budget, and people missed him, so they wanted to see what his new shyt would be like. That album got a big push from the label.

3-Still never sold, so he's only certain people's favorite. He's still nice to me though.

4-LL always knew how to work the music industry/entertainment industry which is why he is still around.

5-Slick rick went gold because of the outkast hype from "the art of story telling", and it was pushed that he just came home. People was buying music back then, as long as your label pushed the product.



That and people really, really liked those rappers. Even years later. Let's see if Nelly gets that love.
 

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That and people really, really liked those rappers. Even years later. Let's see if Nelly gets that love.
He will, if he caters to his original fans. Look at vanilla ice. People shytted on him, then in the 2000's he started getting love again and people act like they never dissed him!
 

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I just watched an ep of the sopranos where vanilla ices behind the music came on the tv while Jackie jr and his man were hatching their plan to take ralphies card game. And I quote:


"Who the fukk is this a$$hole? What did he have like one song?"
 

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Hip hop is jingle trap music now...I accidentally turned on Power 105.1 the other night and Clue was playing the wackiest shyt I ever heard in my life :snoop:
 
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