Why Did God Create Evil?

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Well first you have to humble yourself and then you'll get the answer

When he says things like "I am the Lord "

A humbled you will understand that he is above reproach. We are his creations. He can do what he wills to do with our lives. We should just give thanks for grace, it is sufficient

@KyokushinKarateMan

This sounds like "Confessions from a Cult Member Chapter 1"

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Be happy just for existing? I didn’t ask him to create me, did you ask him to create you?

He did us a favor by bringing us into his little game he’s playing with satan or whomever he’s trying to prove sh*t to? And I should be happy about it, right? Grow up, breh.

These negros start to sound like good slaves when defending this fonky ass bible

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

What is the Juelzing are you going to expound? I agree the text says he creates evil.

Everything you’ve said thus far. But specifically this:

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24

The “mumble rap” of religion.

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

19 Well then, you might say, “Why does God blame people for not responding? Haven’t they simply done what he makes them do?” 20 No, don’t say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn’t he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into? 22In the same way, even though God has the right to show his anger and his power, he is very patient with those on whom his anger falls, who are destined for destruction. 23 He does this to make the riches of his glory shine even brighter on those to whom he shows mercy, who were prepared in advance for glory.

GTFOH with this absolute f*n NONSENSE What type of sociopath do you have to be to make SOME people destined for glory and some people destined for destruction and allowing pain and suffering, when you can say to hell with all of that sh*t and just make everybody straight wha type of egomaniac do you have to be to create something with the ability to understand creation but turn around command it not to question its purpose .

As I figured, no one in the thread can answer the simple question of why was evil created. What’s the big thrill he’s getting out of it? It’s just like how no one can explain why he allows pain and suffering without trying to direct you to 50 million bible verses and two books of revelations.

A simple question such as why is pain and suffering allowed, should be able to be answered just as simply as it’s asked. If I created it, I would be able to answer it. But that’s just me.

And it’s a little disturbing how easy it is to have pain and suffering enter your life, but explaining why you have to go through such a thing in the first place is like explaining rocket science. It takes .00001 seconds to catch a bullet to the brain and inflict a LIFETIME of suffering in your loved ones, but it takes an encyclopedia length explanation to tell me why? Naw something ain’t right bruh

This God is like damn Jigsaw from the Saw movies

 

[ba'al]

Only other verses I can pull off the top I remember are Revelations 4:11 and Isaiah 55:8.

Everything you’ve said thus far. But specifically this:
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24

The “mumble rap” of religion.

That just how shyt works in Abrahamic faiths. Become a buddhist or some shyt if you want Idrc one way or the other.

 

[Emoryal]

Free will can't exist without it

The premise is flawed anyway

So you're saying God is less absolute than the concepts he supposedly creates? Because an omnipotent being should be able to give you a world with "free will" and no evil. Not to mention there is a solid argument that a peaceful good life w/ no free will isn't necessarily a bad thing. Not that it exists in the first place.

 

[tuckgod]

Good and evil were created at the same time because they are just different extremes of the same thing.

Like hot and cold.

Universal law of polarity.

 

[MostReal]

Im not talking about bad right now.
Im saying if he created light, at what point did he create darkness?

what I'm trying to tell you is, he is Darkness. Which is why he was able to bring forth light.
(Again Darkness doesn't mean bad).


This is how you know that "Black people" from a scientific standpoint are the people who were made in his 'image.' We are the only people that can bring forth true light...like our father.

 

[MostReal]

Be happy just for existing? I didn’t ask him to create me, did you ask him to create you?

He did us a favor by bringing us into his little game he’s playing with satan or whomever he’s trying to prove sh*t to? And I should be happy about it, right? Grow up, breh.

yes you should thank him and he did in fact do you a favor just by creating you to experience life while being sentient.
The only person who should grow up is you. You haven't come into an understanding of just what you are in this world.

Or you can choose to be demonic and serve Pan/The Goat/Devil that goes and eats babies, are pedos, play in demonic witchcraft and what not. This is contrary to what you are supposed to be doing but aye you have free will right?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Lol the mental gymnastic this one of the most vicious Christians shuffles I seen.

There's your major problem: I'm not Christian or Jewish. One needn't be an adherent to study a religious text.​

Hahaha yo you can't make this type of cognitive dissonance up. My ribs.

Your ribs and your ability to comperhend simple ideas are problematic, that's why I told you, yet again, exactly what my stance on the matter is. Yet you still have yet to argue against my actual position and have to resort to strawmen. A pity.​

Explain proverbs 16:4.........
4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

That's easy because there IS no doctrine, only the text read like any other literature in it's proper context. In the nutshell: Those who reject 'G-d' are still ultimately subservient to it in order to serve 'G-d's' ' purposes.

'for himself' (maaneh) מַעֲנֶה = response, answer, purpose. 'Day of evil' (ra' ah), רָעָֽה׃ = doom, calamity.
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Yes it is a lot of mental acrobats it's pretty hilarious if you read the bible for yourself certain verses christians just refuse to deal with and it's funny to see them

It's very sad when someone who claims to have actually read the text mangles it's meaning as badly as you have and resorts to using circular reasoning, strawmen, and ad hominems, rather than actual scholarship, even though said scholarship has existed for, literally, centuries.

You can continue trying to argue against a position I don't hold and a 'doctrine' I don't adhere to, but, ultimately, your entire argument is invalid. Has been for about 100 years.

Smileys? Really?​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Amos 6:3

Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?​

That isn't Amos 6:3. That's Amos 3:6......and 'evil' is disaster, doom, calamity (ra 'ah) רָעָה֙ the same word used in Amos 6:3​

Psalm 78:49

49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.
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I'll say one thing, your ability to cherry-pick is on-par with your ability to advance invalid arguments.

'Evil' in that verse is destroying, of destruction (ra' im) רָעִֽים׃​

 

[Lurk_skward]

Infinity is the opposite of one, or of "a few".

Zero represents absence. "Zero apples" means you have no apples, not that you have a few.

The opposite of having no apples is...having an apple. One is the opposite of zero. There is, or there isn't.

You are thinking in binary. Where 0 = nothing and 1 = something.

In the full spectrum of numbers.
Infinity can not be the opposite of 1.
If you take 1 step forward the opposite is to take 1 step backwards. Therefore the opposite of 1 is -1.
Likewise, If you take 0 steps forward or backward the opposite is to take every (infinite) steps forward or backwards. Therefore the opposite of 0 is +- infinity
Do some research

 

[JuvenileHell]

Because the Christian God is no different than an instagram thot...need validation from humanity That's he created evil as a means to justify humanity needing to worship him Pathetic

Reminds me of those pranks where a guy hires someone to fight him in front of his gf and let him win the fight so that his girl is impressed

 

[MischievousMonkey]

So you're saying God is less absolute than the concepts he supposedly creates? Because an omnipotent being should be able to give you a world with "free will" and no evil. Not to mention there is a solid argument that a peaceful good life w/ no free will isn't necessarily a bad thing. Not that it exists in the first place.

I'm not saying he is not able to do it, I'm saying supposing he exists in the way we're discussing, he deemed appropriate to make evil necessary to the existence of free will. Not doing something never implies not being able to do it.

 

[Emoryal]

Good and evil were created at the same time because they are just different extremes of the same thing.

Like hot and cold.

Universal law of polarity.

Univeraal law of polarity>God?