Why did Nelly fall off so hard?

[HipHopStan]

Nelly was opening for a country band a few years ago. I'm not sure which band it was, but the venue was sold out in Nashville. I low-key liked Nelly's music. When you bought an album or listened to a single of his, you knew you weren't going to hear some lyrical wisdom, but you knew you'd hear a catchy 3 minute tune and have a good time with it.

 

[doggy]

Country Granmar is a classic

 

[karim]

Was he like a Ja rule 2.0 ???

He made the same mistake ja rule made, yes. He had a hit and then he discovered a comercial formula, took it and ran with it. That turned him into a pop phenomenon for a short amount of time, but also meant that his core audience turned it's back on him, so he got played out quick
Artists with longevity a) manage to reinvent themselves throughout their career and b) strike a balance between artistic integrity and mainstream appeal (Back in those days, you would have the street record and the radio record. Both Ja Rule and Nelly released lots of successful radio records and neglected the street records, making hiphop fans look at them as soft or pop).

 

[banner34]

He made the same mistake ja rule made, yes. He had a hit and then he discovered a comercial formula, took it and ran with it. That turned him into a pop phenomenon for a short amount of time, but also meant that his core audience turned it's back on him, so he got played out quick
Artists with longevity a) manage to reinvent themselves throughout their career and b) strike a balance between artistic integrity and mainstream appeal (Back in those days, you would have the street record and the radio record. Both Ja Rule and Nelly released lots of successful radio records and neglected the street records, making hiphop fans look at them as soft or pop).

both ja rule and nelly can successfully tour till this day and still make alot of money off of royalties

 

[karim]

both ja rule and nelly can successfully tour till this day and still make alot of money off of royalties

That doesn't change the fact that they fell off and lost artistic relevance quick , while artists that struck a better balance such as Nas or Jay can also tour and make money of royalties while still being (somewhat) relevant.

 

[banner34]

That doesn't change the fact that they fell off and lost artistic relevance quick , while artists that struck a better balance such as Nas or Jay can also tour and make money of royalties while still being (somewhat) relevant.

nas is not relevant today

 

[karim]

nas is not relevant today

he was relevant for far longer than either ja rule or nelly, and he is more relevant than them today

 

[King Sun]

Was he like a Ja rule 2.0 ???

Ironically the south takeover did him in.

 

[Ziggiy]

nas is not relevant today

Nas last solo album debuted at number 5 on the charts. Lost Tapes 2, a compilation album of unreleased material dating back FOURTEEN years debuted at number 10.


Nas is definitely relevant. Nelly ain’t dropping a top ten album in 2020

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Despite how you feel, Drake is a far superior talent than Nelly which is why he has persevered so long. Nelly only has one solid record in his discography. Nellyville and sweat suit were fukking trash

Dudes just relate to Drake more because he represents who they are (Corny) and what they want to be ( Accepted by cool people) and he makes songs the bytches like so both sexes accept him.

 

[Marco Zen]

He made the same mistake ja rule made, yes. He had a hit and then he discovered a comercial formula, took it and ran with it. That turned him into a pop phenomenon for a short amount of time, but also meant that his core audience turned it's back on him, so he got played out quick
Artists with longevity a) manage to reinvent themselves throughout their career and b) strike a balance between artistic integrity and mainstream appeal (Back in those days, you would have the street record and the radio record. Both Ja Rule and Nelly released lots of successful radio records and neglected the street records, making hiphop fans look at them as soft or pop).

 

[010101]

that's timing

if he came out when internet & streaming popped he'd be able to keep himself in the convo

in the era he got on artist still counted on others to promote them & keep them in the publics consciousness

when they moved on they moved on & that was that

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[Sankofa Alwayz]

I wouldn’t say Nelly fell off at all. His time just naturally came to an end. He had a dope ass run, peaked around 2005, popularity began to wane gradually around ‘07 and went out with one last decent commercial spin with that album he dropped in 2010 that had “Just A Dream” on it. He still made his presence known with the upcoming generation and us younger Millennials by being casted on Real Husbands of Hollywood. And I definitely see him as being a sort of archetype of Da Baby and Lil Nas X. Nelly had the type of high energy fun in his music videos, charisma, fitness vibe (especially around the Sweat/Suit era), and sex appeal (pause) that Da Baby iconically exemplifies today; then you had Nelly not being shy in adding Country elements to his music especially with his love of guitar riffs and strings, very similar to LNX.

It also doesn’t hurt that Dilemma, Hot In Herre, Grillz, and occasionally Flap Your Wings still get play at HBCU functions and events to this day.

If anything, we should discuss how the hell did Chingy and Murphy Lee fell off so hard while we’re talking about STL Hip Hop.

 

[Noriega]

If anything, we should discuss how the hell did Chingy and Murphy Lee fell off so hard while we’re talking about STL Hip Hop.

STL isn’t a NYC, ATL, LA etc obviously

they had a great run for a smaller major city. Had nearly a decade long run

I always thought Chingy could’ve been T.I status under the right conditions.

 

[Another Man]

He actually did a lot better than most of his peers