Why did people sleep on Kelis Kaleidoscope album when it came out in 1999 ?

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I hit on this a bit in the thread shytting on all these cats like Bryson tiller, Torrey lanez, etc. Between r&b not selling like it used to and the hyper masculine hard on hoes persona of these younger dudes, they have consciously, or subconsciously, fostered a hostile environment for female artists. They rather listen to male singers shyt on women and turn up. Women/girls also seem cattier than ever and have, for whatever reason, accepted being displaced from urban music (where are the mainstream female rappers?). Don't know what's going on here but black chicks simply can't get on. Jhene aiko was the last semblance of a success story. Sevyn streeter, teyana taylor, tiara thomas, Elle Varner, lion babe, hell, even willow smith..,they all should be on.
I never looked at the impact that the HOH rhetoric has with respect to this topic but it's definitely a plausible theory. A part of me wants to blame Beyonce, Rihanna, and Nicki. Not them or their music directly but the cultish following their respective movements have had, that it seems like their fanbases are unwilling to accept anything else. They've also done a poor job of putting on other female artists. Rihanna did put SZA on her recent album but they don't do that enough. Compare that to Drake who seems to actively hop on every newer artists hit. And yeah, I know Drake's motives are more self-serving than anything but it still helps those newer artists gain recognition and have that "stamp" of approval.

Sevyn Streeter - Please don't kill the fun should have been a hit smh. Tiara Thomas has some dope stuff too. Tink ft Jeremih Don't Tell Nobody should have been a hit too. This has been bugging me for a while now.

Also, this isn't addressed enough in the media. I can't say I've heard the breakfast club, ebro in the morning, complex, or anybody address this topic.
 

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I never looked at the impact that the HOH rhetoric has with respect to this topic but it's definitely a plausible theory. A part of me wants to blame Beyonce, Rihanna, and Nicki. Not them or their music directly but the cultish following their respective movements have had, that it seems like their fanbases are unwilling to accept anything else. They've also done a poor job of putting on other female artists. Rihanna did put SZA on her recent album but they don't do that enough. Compare that to Drake who seems to actively hop on every newer artists hit. And yeah, I know Drake's motives are more self-serving than anything but it still helps those newer artists gain recognition and have that "stamp" of approval.

Sevyn Streeter - Please don't kill the fun should have been a hit smh. Tiara Thomas has some dope stuff too. Tink ft Jeremih Don't Tell Nobody should have been a hit too. This has been bugging me for a while now.

Also, this isn't addressed enough in the media. I can't say I've heard the breakfast club, ebro in the morning, complex, or anybody address this topic.
I agree with everything except the beyonce rihanna part, one, they can't be responsible for their silly ass fans (that's what I was getting at when I said women are cattier than ever, i think social media and reality tv has made women a lot more shallow and plain mean) also, outside of collectives/record labels (Motown, laface, etc), r&b and pop acts never really were responsible for putting on other acts, hip hop has always had that more ingrained in the culture.

Men simply are "too hard" for r&b and women throw shade at every fukking body, female artists don't stand a chance. Plus, who are the hot r&b producers? Everybody sing rapping over trap beats and downtempo leaned out music.
 

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Caught Out There:dj2:/ Get Along With You:fire: went HAM in highschool:ahh:

...and, Res How I Do album:stylin: was ahead of it's time:wow:

New Wave Millenium BLACKEXCELLENCE:to:
 
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Black alternative wasn't the wave yet. Plus she's wack as fukk.


the real question is why people still sleep on this album
How_I_Do_front_album_cover.jpg

The Queen Santigold all over this album. On the hit single They Say Vision you can hear her vocals

 

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Late late LATE pass but I finally copped this album yesterday :lolbron:



Yeah it's really good and actually sounds fresh in 2017
 
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