Why didn't Nas work with Pete Rock again after Illmatic ?

[Metal Face]

has this ever been explained fully?

mfs put out the goat rap song and never worked again until Lost Tapes 2

i know they had beef over illmatic royalties but still

 

[Figaro]

It’s a shame because QB Politics is 1 of Nas best song released in the last 10 years.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Cause Pete is an antisocial weirdo

 

[MJ Truth]

Cause Pete is an antisocial weirdo

People said similar about Nas for a couple decades.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

PR once said in an interview it’s because he wasn’t the type of producer to hang out with Nas in QB, when others would.

 

[Rekkapryde]

PR once said in an interview it’s because he wasn’t the type of producer to hang out with Nas in QB, when others would.

So goofiness

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

he had 2 songs stored that were used on the Lost Tapes 2 album. But my theory is that Pete Rock was leading the pack with the "IWW is a pop album" nonsense due to not getting any credits on the album. Pete gave an interview around that time calling the songs Nas was doing "pop" and it was only because he got no placements on the album. Large Pro and Q Tip had no complaints, but Pete was on some bullshyt. The thing with Nas is if you give him a beat, he may not use it immediately. Large Pro said he gave Nas the beat for "ur da man" back in 98. It wasn't released until Stillmatic

 

[bobbiewishbone]

In 2022 PR was trying to sue Nas over royalties from The World Is Yours.

 

[TheNig]

Because in the last ten years it's really come to light that Pete Rock is a dikkhead.

So I'm pretty sure that's something Esco knew thirty years ago.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

he had 2 songs stored that were used on the Lost Tapes 2 album. But my theory is that Pete Rock was leading the pack with the "IWW is a pop album" nonsense due to not getting any credits on the album. Pete gave an interview around that time calling the songs Nas was doing "pop" and it was only because he got no placements on the album. Large Pro and Q Tip had no complaints, but Pete was on some bullshyt. The thing with Nas is if you give him a beat, he may not use it immediately. Large Pro said he gave Nas the beat for "ur da man" back in 98. It wasn't released until Stillmatic

Stoute is/was a divisive manager in a lot of settings too.

In life you can often have wedges driven between co workers, friends etc for no specific reason other than they stop hanging out as much, or they don't get along with another person within the circles that's always around.

 

[Piff Perkins]

he had 2 songs stored that were used on the Lost Tapes 2 album. But my theory is that Pete Rock was leading the pack with the "IWW is a pop album" nonsense due to not getting any credits on the album. Pete gave an interview around that time calling the songs Nas was doing "pop" and it was only because he got no placements on the album. Large Pro and Q Tip had no complaints, but Pete was on some bullshyt. The thing with Nas is if you give him a beat, he may not use it immediately. Large Pro said he gave Nas the beat for "ur da man" back in 98. It wasn't released until Stillmatic

Steve Stoute said that when he played IWW for Tip in the studio he said it was going to ruin Nas' career. He just didn't shyt on the album publicly.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Steve Stoute said that when he played IWW for Tip in the studio he said it was going to ruin Nas' career. He just didn't shyt on the album publicly.

You can understand Tips sentiment.

To say some of the material on IWW was jarringly in opposition to his debut would be an understatement. None of the producers on the first album had purposefully gone after radio, IWW/Soute/Trackmasters did.

 

[Ziggiy]

Pete Rock trashed It Was Written when it first dropped because he wasn’t featured on it and Nas didn’t speak to him for over ten years.

There was a rumor started by the internet that Pete Rock had slept with Carmen and that led to issues between them. Rock was asked about it in an interview with Allhiphop and Rock said “That never happened and Nas is dumb if he believes it. He hasn’t spoken to me in ten years. I don’t know that woman!”

They set aside whatever issues they had in 2011 because Pete Rock was supposed to be on the original version of Lost Tapes 2 that Nas was trying to put out before he dropped Life is Good. That song, The Art of It, ended up on the version we got in 2019 along with Queensbridge Politics.

In 2022 Pete Rock threatened to sue Nas over writer’s royalties for his hook on The World is Yours. Which made no sense as Sony still owns the Masters to Illmatic and would be responsible for paying any and all royalties to credited writers and producers. Nas threw a shot at him on Kings Disease 3 and Pete Rock crashed out over it on Instagram and threatened to delete his social media.

Pete Rock also threw shots at Hit-Boy’s production, basically calling it an “imitation” of the boom bap sound and that he and Premier could do better.


For Illmatic’s 30 year anniversary Nas gathered with all the album’s producers minus Pete Rock and took a celebratory picture. Rock claimed he was late to the photoshoot and that he and Nas had no issues.

Thats the current timeline regarding them.

 

[ADP]

Pete Rock trashed It Was Written when it first dropped because he wasn’t featured on it and Nas didn’t speak to him for over ten years.

There was a rumor started by the internet that Pete Rock had slept with Carmen and that led to issues between them. Rock was asked about it in an interview with Allhiphop and Rock said “That never happened and Nas is dumb if he believes it. He hasn’t spoken to me in ten years. I don’t know that woman!”

They set aside whatever issues they had in 2011 because Pete Rock was supposed to be on the original version of Lost Tapes 2 that Nas was trying to put out before he dropped Life is Good. That song, The Art of It, ended up on the version we got in 2019 along with Queensbridge Politics.

In 2022 Pete Rock threatened to sue Nas over writer’s royalties for his hook on The World is Yours. Which made no sense as Sony still owns the Masters to Illmatic and would be responsible for paying any and all royalties to credited writers and producers. Nas threw a shot at him on Kings Disease 3 and Pete Rock crashed out over it on Instagram and threatened to delete his social media.

Pete Rock also threw shots at Hit-Boy’s production, basically calling it an “imitation” of the boom bap sound and that he and Premier could do better.


For Illmatic’s 30 year anniversary Nas gathered with all the album’s producers minus Pete Rock and took a celebratory picture. Rock claimed he was late to the photoshoot and that he and Nas had no issues.

Thats the current timeline regarding them.

From what is rumored, do you know if they have worked on music together in more recent times ? (like last year or so...)

 

[Ziggiy]

From what is rumored, do you know if they have worked on music together in more recent times ? (like last year or so...)

Not to my knowledge. Nas spent most of last year focusing on the Legend Has It series and Pete Rock and Common confirmed last year they were working on a followup to The Auditorium.