Why do Black folks hate republicans and embrace democrats?

[Mikael Blowpiff]

Ones overtly racist and the other is more or less the same economically which means that they won't actually do anything to better the lots of minorities, women or gays outside of lip service but that's better then a straight up fukk you I guess.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

We know you're a bought and sold nikka....I'll wait for more rational minds to weigh in.

Yep, thats me a "bought and sold" black man on that good ol' democrat plantation. The obsession republicans have with slavery references is of course non-racial, and you as a black republican set the standard of what an independent and rational mind should be

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I couldnt see how or why could ask questions like this "Why do Blacks and Republicans not play well together?". It wasnt until a year ago that I realize folks dont watch/read the news or are generally ignorant about history. I find those types of questions funny nowadays.

If you're an adult, who actually pays attention to the world around him and cannot answer this question himself, you dont deserve an answer.

This. Stay up on the news and learn American political history for the past 60 years and the answer is self-explanatory.

 

[filial_piety]

Some republicans still make it difficult to ignore race, but I see where you're coming from. The more black republicans there are, the less the white ones feel comfortable villainizing blacks, so we all can finally move onto other social issues.

I'll openly admit that some Republicans do some fukked up shyt...I'm not a party loyalist by any means, hence why I identify as a moderate...I can see and agree with some of the things the hard left blacks have been concerned about.

But In regards to your follow up statement, after being around a few other republicans, from my personal experience...most of them are not "racist" by anymeans. Granted I have not traveled out west (I'm in NYC) or down south to these little coal mine towns where everyone bleeds "red" and have hardly come across any black people in their life time.

But what I have found though, it that White liberals can be extremely intolerant and comfortable villainizing blacks...when black people don't agree with their other social issues. For example, from what I've observed...when a black leftists disagrees on an issues or policies revolving around something such as feminist ideology...or gay marriage....those very same left leaning gays and feminists (primarily whites) become as racist as any white person I have ever seen.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Idk but it's a weird situation because black people are overwhelmingly christian and homophobic, yet are die-hard dems.

No race of people makes their social conservatism a primary voting matter except for white people.

 

[bzb]

Personally, as a conservative, black moderate Republican, I think that most blacks who consider themselves on the left have been bought and sold on the racism industry that the Democrats have been using as their primary platform for decades now.

IMPO when having any discussion as it relates to politics or economics, black democrats seem to encapsulate themselves on everything as being related, infused or overlapping with their "race." It's very difficult to have a discussion about any social issues as it relates to them without making "race" the topic headline. The few (and I mean very few) blacks with whom I can surgically remove the issue of "race" from their minds on all subjects, tend to be much more conservative than they originally thought.

the "racism industry" as you put it is coddled by the republican party. why do you think the tea party has become so popular? their core group of angry white men is closely aligned with white nationlist ideology and the race baiting in code / fear mongering in the open tactics those groups employ. racists find solace in the fact that the republicans sympathize with their concerns and are promising to do something about it. that promise shows up in the form of repeal of social programs for the needy as a first stop means of fiscal conservatism and aggressive tactics on immigration reform that would punish those who aren't 'real americans'.

the moderate republicans you claim to be a part of are a quiet voice in the republican party and have virtually no say on their platform. just look at the last election. republicans openly admitted in their presidential platform that they see no value in pursuing minority votes or including issues important to minorities in their platform. they support racially aggravating issues and then try to insinuate that whites are suffering from reverse racism.

what's really damaging to the gop is how much further to the right they've moved since obama was elected. and then people have the nerve to ask why black folks and minorities don't like republicans....

 

[SwagmundFreud]

The Democratic Party has been failing us for decades look at any low income city such as Detroit.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

I'll openly admit that some Republicans do some fukked up shyt...I'm not a party loyalist by any means, hence why I identify as a moderate...I can see and agree with some of the things the hard left blacks have been concerned about.

But In regards to your follow up statement, after being around a few other republicans, from my personal experience...most of them are not "racist" by anymeans. Granted I have not traveled out west (I'm in NYC) or down south to these little coal mine towns where everyone bleeds "red" and have hardly come across any black people in their life time.

But what I have found though, it that White liberals can be extremely intolerant and comfortable villainizing blacks...when black people don't agree with their other social issues. For example, from what I've observed...when a black leftists disagrees on an issues or policies revolving around something such as feminist ideology...or gay marriage....those very same left leaning gays and feminists (primarily whites) become as racist as any white person I have ever seen.

Okay, so you have simply substituted personal rationalizations with factual data and reason. You can convince yourself of whatever, but its empirically supportable that republicans as a whole orient around a distaste of minority groups ---specifically blacks. This is a fact.

@fillerguy just posted how one of the more important strategists in modern history openly used a coded demonization of blacks in order to gain support among racists. President nixon was supportive/neutral on black rights until one of his aids produced a massive quantitative project explaining how crucial it was for him to court racists as a purely demographic rationale (nixon made a complete 180 on issues like busing after reading the study). Republicans have completely convinced their base that govt. gives to blacks and takes from whites.

The problem here is that now since there is such a political cost to being the exclusive party of the white man in an ever increasing diverse nation, y'all wanna con people into believing that race is only an issue among people who "complain" about them as a cheap strategy to gain the votes from people of color w/o working for them, and, if anything, actively working against them. Talk about having it both ways.

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

Under the current system, there isn't really a true fiscally conservative party I can align with, so I threw both in the bushes



Republican party leadership really doesn't do themselves any favors either. My grandparents are what you would consider true conservatives and they Republicans (mainly Santorum) forced them to vote for Obama . They still vote Republican in local elections, but in the presidential primary




I went to a libertarian convention like and left like

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Personally, as a conservative, black moderate Republican, I think that most blacks who consider themselves on the left have been bought and sold on the racism industry that the Democrats have been using as their primary platform for decades now.

IMPO when having any discussion as it relates to politics or economics, black democrats seem to encapsulate themselves on everything as being related, infused or overlapping with their "race." It's very difficult to have a discussion about any social issues as it relates to them without making "race" the topic headline. The few (and I mean very few) blacks with whom I can surgically remove the issue of "race" from their minds on all subjects, tend to be much more conservative than they originally thought.

lol...black conservatives keep spouting this condescending, insulting bullshyt about how black people vote Democrat because they've been brainwashed by the Democratic party into dependence on government and thinking Republicans are racist...like the people in this c00n rally talking about there's no difference between the Democratic party and a plantation.



If you guys think you're going to win over a single convert by telling them they're too stupid to think for themselves and formulate their own opinions on issues, go right ahead and see where it gets you.

Most black people don't give a fukk about the Democratic party. They just see them as the lesser of two evils based on them being more palatable than the alternative on policy--particular economic policy--taxes, education, job creation, social safety nets/entitlements--and of course, the Democratic party embraced the tide of civil rights in the 60's while the Republicans embraced the values of the old Dixiecrats and took on the southern strategy, which still exist to this day despite Ken Mehlman apologizing for it.

If you guys' little "Democrat plantation-brainwashed-race-baiting-race hustler-Al Sharpton-Jesse Jackson blah blah blah" accusations had any merit, you would see a significant trend toward more educated blacks voting Republican. You don't. The vast majority of highly educated black people such as vote Democrat, just as poor and middle class blacks do. Gee, I wonder why?

 

[filial_piety]

what's really damaging to the gop is how much further to the right they've moved since obama was elected. and then people have the nerve to ask why black folks and minorities don't like republicans....

I won't address your initial points because they appear to be the typical, run of the muck, MSNBC talking points...

But as far as your ending is concerned...truth be told...both Kennedy and Reagan would have a difficult time in today's political climate. In the past decade or so...it seems as if people are becoming more and more single-issue voters more than anything else, with little balance and desire to cross party lines.

 

[Zardoz]

I'll openly admit that some Republicans do some fukked up shyt...I'm not a party loyalist by any means, hence why I identify as a moderate...I can see and agree with some of the things the hard left blacks have been concerned about.

But In regards to your follow up statement, after being around a few other republicans, from my personal experience...most of them are not "racist" by anymeans. Granted I have not traveled out west (I'm in NYC) or down south to these little coal mine towns where everyone bleeds "red" and have hardly come across any black people in their life time.

But what I have found though, it that White liberals can be extremely intolerant and comfortable villainizing blacks...when black people don't agree with their other social issues. For example, from what I've observed...when a black leftists disagrees on an issues or policies revolving around something such as feminist ideology...or gay marriage....those very same left leaning gays and feminists (primarily whites) become as racist as any white person I have ever seen.

Yeah. Like few others have said, many blacks are religious and therefore agree with many social conservative points that don't involve race. And I agree that white liberals go crazy when they see so many blacks not agreeing with pro-gay laws.

Just a shame race is such an obstacle that racial minorities can't freely express both sides of the political spectrum and explore other social issues.

 

[iBrowse]

Even a Black Republican knows GOP is full of bigots

steele doesn't really fukk with them any more

 

[kermit da hustla]

IMPO when having any discussion as it relates to politics or economics, black democrats seem to encapsulate themselves on everything as being related, infused or overlapping with their "race."

that's because, in america, EVERYTHING is about race. it's the big white elephant that all of us - white and black - see each days of our lives but refuse to speak about in public for fear of confrontation. america has never reconciled its horrific legacy of slavery with modern day society.

until that happens, until white people own up to what they presently enjoy off the blood shed by our ancestors, everything in this country will always be about race.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

steele doesn't really fukk with them any more

Reminds me of the Jadakiss line "it takes something to happen for nikkas to learn"

Republicans elevated him to head of the RNC IMMEDIATELY following Obama's 2008 win, under the theory that all minorities respond to a superficial imagery of race. Steele was actually great for them, and was the head when they made sweeping gains in the house during the 2010 midterms. But Steele started reminding them that he's actually black, and they threw him to the bushes --- I think Steele challenged and stood up to Limbaugh or something like that, and it was the beginning of the end for him. Steele is a borderline democrat now.