Why do men take child support so personally?

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All of this... nikkas missed sex ed or something shorty...
All of this ignores that a man can marry a woman have a child with her that he loves, then end up divorced with limited custody paying child support. You seem to want to focus on the deadbeats but men taking care of their kids to the best degree they are allowed end up caught up in the system as well because getting full custody as a father is damn near impossible.

If I were a father doing everything I could to be in my kids life and make sure they were provided for and a judge who never met me and knew nothing about me decided to say I wasn't doing enough as a father I'd be pissed. I would take that very personally.

I know there are some bums who don't do right by their kids but let's not pretend they are the only ones involved with child support.
 

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All of this ignores that a man can marry a woman have a child with her that he loves, then end up divorced with limited custody paying child support. You seem to want to focus on the deadbeats but men taking care of their kids to the best degree they are allowed end up caught up in the system as well because getting full custody as a father is damn near impossible.

If I were a father doing everything I could to be in my kids life and make sure they were provided for and a judge who never met me and knew nothing about me decided to say I wasn't doing enough as a father I'd be pissed. I would take that very personally.

I know there are some bums who don't do right by their kids but let's not pretend they are the only ones involved with child support.
no no no

all men are deadbeats and all single mothers are honest women who made a mistake. no such thing as people breaking up from committed relationships and taking kids with them. No such thing as the wife taking kids in divorce.

It's all men carelessly skeeting raw into hoodrats
 

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Can you cite your source that shows that the majority of mothers (most is the word you used) receive section 8, food stamps, and etc?

I said I was playing Devil's Advocate... not saying its true... My bad for using the word MOST....
I editted ..and change it to some...

and your 80% comment wasnt just implying money.. I'm answerign in the tone of other comments in this thread..

I know a girl whose child father quit his job to avoid paying support.. I also know somebody else who worked off the books to avoid..

Child support is complicated... I mean does Nas' son need 36000 a month... not really... there should be an average amount per child ... What makes the child different who has 35/month versus the child who gets 200 versus the child who gets 1000 or up
 
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If they aren't going to be the ones taking care of the child?
Okay....let someone take a large chunk of your paycheck, put you in the poor house and threaten you with jailtime, license suspension and job loss every month and we'll see how "PERSONALLY" you take that mess...

gtfohwtbs...
 

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I don't understand what you mean by don't need it? Should men not also financially contribute to their child's lives (that same way that mothers do)?
The women who use child support as a weapon is what I'm talking about.

I speak of the women who have support from the man but when he finds someone else, she drops that sword on him.

I speak of the women who aren't mentally stable enough to mother their children, there are a lot of them out there, getting calls on them to DCF.

In those instances, the state will automatically side with them (it doesn't even take much to get the support started when you compare it to getting it terminated) and then you have a system that's meant to do good by the children be corrupted by fukkery.

There's more I could list but that's from my own experience.
 

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Go fukk yourself, Midwest
All of this ignores that a man can marry a woman have a child with her that he loves, then end up divorced with limited custody paying child support. You seem to want to focus on the deadbeats but men taking care of their kids to the best degree they are allowed end up caught up in the system as well because getting full custody as a father is damn near impossible.

If I were a father doing everything I could to be in my kids life and make sure they were provided for and a judge who never met me and knew nothing about me decided to say I wasn't doing enough as a father I'd be pissed. I would take that very personally.

I know there are some bums who don't do right by their kids but let's not pretend they are the only ones involved with child support.
You ain't telling me shyt I don't know...
 

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Okay....let someone take a large chunk of your paycheck, put you in the poor house and threaten you with jailtime, license suspension and job loss every month and we'll see how "PERSONALLY" you take that mess...

gtfohwtbs...
Considering I'm going to have my children during marriage, and if we get divorced will lobby for full-custody, I don't think I'll ever know honestly.
And yes, for the hundreds of thousands of guys who are not in their child's life, and try to avoid any financial responsibility for the life they created, they should be subject to those penalties.
 

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To play devil's advocate.... some of the time that 80% is paid by tax dollars in the form of section 8, other rent subsidies, food stamps etc..

I have a tenant who refuses to work because she gets more money being in the system... I get paid 950 a month in rent from PA, she get stamps and etc... she's getting almost 1500-200 a month paid.... then she's gettign child support...

BAck on topic...
When I speak on child support, I don't include the "welfare queen" men love to bring up.

Nothing is royal or queen like when a woman is sitting on her ass collecting gov't subsidiaries and child support.

Also, the welfare queen makes up a small percentage, especially in my own life with those I know. I know about 2 people who earn welfare and 8 who work a job, pay bills from their earnings and take care of their kids.
 

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When I speak on child support, I don't include the "welfare queen" men love to bring up.

Nothing is royal or queen like when a woman is sitting on her ass collecting gov't subsidiaries and child support.

Also, the welfare queen makes up a small percentage, especially in my own life with those I know. I know about 2 people who earn welfare and 8 who work a job, pay bills from their earnings and take care of their kids.

You know the old saying.. the minority has the biggest voice... So while the welfare queen is actually a minority.. thats who's the most vocal on both sides of this debate.That's why thats what is always brought up as the example...
 
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