Why do people in D.C pretend go go is good?

[Wiseborn]

You was right about Africans and their views on GoGo. They didn't like it. I remember in the early 80's, when I use to work the graveyard shift sorting mail every Friday night, and these young brothers use to bring in their boomboxes. There was this sorta heavy-set African dude who worked in the mail room with us. These young brothers started playing GoGo kind of close to him one night, trying to make him feel at home, because like you said, it sounded like African music to us. But this African dude got offended. You would have expected that from a White person first, but not an African...especially. Those young brothers turn on him, and called him a big fat African...lol.

Yes and that solves the Black Americans have no culture argument. Because again Go Go is totally African and Black American at the same time. The drums the call and response the greeting people in the crowd all African but not really.

To people who are Black American but don't like Go Go it's like being in a Foot stommping Black church. Anyone who's been to a Black Church knows a song could be five minutes long or 30 minutes I remember one time the song was so long that they Pastor didn't bother with the sermon. The song was like 2 hours long.

I remember listening to a Podcast about the Sopranos and their words and they said that the words they used like Gabbagool for cappicola was corruptions of old Italian words which is slightly different than modern Italian.

I heard African Gospel and it sounds completely different than Black American Gospel

Again a Black American may not like Go Go but they understand The Pocket meaning extending the best part of the song.

It's how Rap as we know it got started by playing the breakbeats only and not the song itself.

Same concept with Go Go except they used live instrumentation

My Colombian girlfriend asked why Erykah Badu kept repeating the same verse over and over I told her because that was the best Part. That is solely an Black American thing.

 

[Bigblackted4]

You have to live there and hear it a couple times to get it. It’s not something most can just get off the cuff because it’s unique but once you do, the music will take you over.

My experience- from Cleveland but had a joint I was trying to pull that was from Dc in college. She would play Gogo for me and I would hate it. Moved there and within the first year I was hooked. Since moving I still will have a gogo Friday.

 

[Wiseborn]

You have to live there and hear it a couple times to get it. It’s not something most can just get off the cuff because it’s unique but once you do, the music will take you over.

My experience- from Cleveland but had a joint I was trying to pull that was from Dc in college. She would play Gogo for me and I would hate it. Moved there and within the first year I was hooked. Since moving I still will have a gogo Friday.

Actually all Black people like Go Go they just don't know it.

bet you liked this


I mean Donnie is essentially Go Go talking on this song meaning it's an extended break and he's just harmonizing over it.

It's lead by the Congos just like Go Go the wild thing is that the guy playing the Congos is a cac.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You can't culturally appropriate it. It's too Black. shyt is the personification of the Blue note.

The Blue note is a note that old school jazz musicians say that white people can't play because they can't hear it.

A GoGo song is not a song at all, I couldn't imagine playing it in a studio and not live and it's improvisational Again any Go Go practice is basically a jam session and no matter what you do it will sound different live.

I could imagine someone hearing GoGo and not liking it you'd have to be At the GoGo to appreciate it.

Soca and Dancehall is similar but different I'd say Dancehall at a stage show comes the closest.

100% on point post! I was gonna say that GoGo is a function type of music in the same way that Soca, Reggaeton or Dancehall because all of these genres share the essence of an overly repetitive/overpowering beat. IMO, this type of music doesn't translate to listening to in album format/non-dancing situations.

Wild how GoGo is uniquely African and Black American at the same time, I never heard an African in Africa or spent a lot of time in Africa who liked it. Go Go sounds like what you'd think African music would sound like but it doesn't.

Nah....those bongos and congas are giving you that impression but it's a false one! Trad "African" music doesn't "Bounce."







"Bounce" is that thing that makes one nod their head up and down to Funk





but GoGo took it a step further and made "Bounce" feel go to the middle and lower body which is the result of "Swing"

"Swing" created the "Bounce" which is absent in Trad African music the same way it's absent in AfroCuban music,

which is probably the best example of unchanged West-West Central African rhythm in the new world.



What Fela Kuti's drummer, Tony Allen is describing as "groove" in regards to James Brown is coming from/a product of that swing/bounce feel



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"bounce" feel applied to/on the congas as heard in GoGo

 

[The Phoenix]

exactly I had a mentor who was into Zydeco I heard it and hated it. Same thing totally regional thing and highly improved.

I don't remember it in the Wire but in The Corner where the DC boys shot up the Block blasting Go Go that was real. Except I never heard of DC nikkas really going to Baltimore like that, shyt was literally up the street but another world, They talked different and the music was radically different. That Baltimore club shyt got zero play in DC and vice versa.

Whole city looked weak when they had a fakkit represent their city.

Granted Ms. puffy (pause) got a pass in DC someway but no way would them gay nikkas make a song,

That being said I did start fukking with some Baltimore chicks and got into the Baltimore club scene I couldn't be the only one but there was no mixing. Jay-Z would do a song with Backyard before Young leek would.

And yes Snoop would've shot me because I hadn't a clue who that nikka was I ramdomly looked that shyt up one day.

Again this is wild because depending on where you are in Maryland you could get 92 Q or 93 KYS.

Stringer mentions it when he meets with the DC dude to put a hit on Dangelo in jail.

 

[Wiseborn]

100% on point post! I was gonna say that GoGo is a function type of music in the same way that Soca, Reggaeton or Dancehall because all of these genres share the essence of an overly repetitive/overpowering beat. IMO, this type of music doesn't translate to listening to in album format/non-dancing situations.



Nah....those bongos and congas are giving you that impression but it's a false one! Trad "African" music doesn't "Bounce."







"Bounce" is that thing that makes one nod their head up and down to Funk





but GoGo took it a step further and made "Bounce" feel go to the middle and lower body which is the result of "Swing"

"Swing" created the "Bounce" which is absent in Trad African music the same way it's absent in AfroCuban music,

which is probably the best example of unchanged West-West Central African rhythm in the new world.



What Fela Kuti's drummer, Tony Allen is describing as "groove" in regards to James Brown is coming from/a product of that swing/bounce feel



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.

"bounce" feel applied to/on the congas as heard in GoGo

Yo are you a music historian or cultural critic? Because you know this music shyt.

You serously need a channel on you tube because the best that I watch Diggin' the Greats is good but he's white.

 

[Wiseborn]

Stringer mentions it when he meets with the DC dude to put a hit on Dangelo in jail.

Oh yeah I remember him inviting him to Oxon Hill ssame state maybe 40 miles from Balitmore but might as well been on another planet.

Obviously the writers where local but the detail from cacs is fukking amazing. If he called String Moe or Joe maybe that would've been laying it on too thick.

 

[Wiseborn]

100% on point post! I was gonna say that GoGo is a function type of music in the same way that Soca, Reggaeton or Dancehall because all of these genres share the essence of an overly repetitive/overpowering beat. IMO, this type of music doesn't translate to listening to in album format/non-dancing situations.



Nah....those bongos and congas are giving you that impression but it's a false one! Trad "African" music doesn't "Bounce."







"Bounce" is that thing that makes one nod their head up and down to Funk





but GoGo took it a step further and made "Bounce" feel go to the middle and lower body which is the result of "Swing"

"Swing" created the "Bounce" which is absent in Trad African music the same way it's absent in AfroCuban music,

which is probably the best example of unchanged West-West Central African rhythm in the new world.



What Fela Kuti's drummer, Tony Allen is describing as "groove" in regards to James Brown is coming from/a product of that swing/bounce feel



.
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"bounce" feel applied to/on the congas as heard in GoGo

I'm in the city of salsa and shyt is kinda culturally appropriated heavy.

The group Group Niche Niche being a slang term for Black has a lot of non Black people.

Buenaventura y Caney. Buena is like 95% Black and Barrio El Caney is kinda like the PG county of people from Buena.

The group Heritage of Timibiqui while not being a Salsa group is keeping it Black down here.

 

[Wiseborn]

Stringer mentions it when he meets with the DC dude to put a hit on Dangelo in jail.

Again the show is perfect. You do a crime in Oxon Hill youre going to Jessup.

But nobody in DC heard of Avon or Little Melvin just like they never heard of Slik and Rayfus so yes using a DC dude to clip Dee made perfect sense.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

I went off on a tangent but once reason that Go Go didn't really go is because How the fukk could you really play it over there? Again by listening to old ass tapes this was before the time when they had to spend 90% of the time shouting out the crews.
I remember I was grabbing lunch in Fayetteville North Carolina and they played Budweiser and I heard them shout me out

Again to any non Go Go head listening all they did was take the Budweier frogs from the commericial sampled that over a Go Go beat and the rest of the song was G shouting out nikkas in the crowd so I must of have been there when they recorded it and their bassist lived around my way back in the day.

Go Go lost its sound when it lost the rhythm and bass guitar.





It grew out of Funk, and when schools started cutting music programs it eliminated the opportunity for black kids to learn the horns and string thus relying on drums and leaning more to hip-hop

You can hear the overlap of gogo and funk here

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Wow Japanese people like everything. Theres US military there but Ican't see some random sailors having the pull to get a Go Go band out there.

Again I'm a PanAfricanist to the core but damn this Black American culture is amazing I mean this is a super obscure subculture in one city and somehow without any music industry push it spread. I didn't link it but the story of Slave to the Rhythm was it was produced by white english people but I think Chris Blackwell suggested they use Go Go music in 1985 so they flew to New York and hired Musicians from DC.

They said it was musicians but maybe it was E,U. I remember in the early 2000's I was in the NOI Mosque in London and when I said | was from the Ghanian Secretary said Chuck Brown? And I said Chuck? There's people on Georgia Avenue who never heard of him and y'all know who that is? I was amazed at how far our culture travels.

I heard that Essence who was the biggest band in the 90's got like 2800 per show for the whole band. I'm sure they got more when they played big shows when the headlined one of the big rap shows but still nikkas was grossly underpaid based on the reach of the culture.

Especially back then some one from the urea would blast a PA tape whereever they happened to be and they low brought the culture to that place.

Trouble Funk toured in some spots in Europe, too, during that time.

With Japan they had a group called Casiopea that was like a jazz, funk, city pop fusion so I can see why they could get into Trouble Funk



Apparently there is still some love for go go over there

 

[frush11]

New Skool Bounce Beat Gogo is mid.

But aint no Band in the World fukking with BYB

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Yo are you a music historian or cultural critic? Because you know this music shyt.

You serously need a channel on you tube because the best that I watch Diggin' the Greats is good but he's white.

Just a fan of music

 

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[Don'tCallMeLuckyB]

DC cats be dressing like Austin powers chilling on the block doing that stupid go go dance.