Why do poor people knowingly have children?

[richaveli83]

We can use the federal poverty line as a point of reference, if you fall below that, you probably shouldn't be trying to bring additional human beings onto the planet.

How would you enforce that? Forcing poor people to be sterilized until they meet government standard?

 

[Matt504]

How would you enforce that? Forcing poor people to be sterilized until they meet government standard?

we could continue to do nothing and watch our communities continue to decay or those people could volunteer to have reversible procedures and during the period their not able to procreate, they could do things to better themselves without the strain of having to support a small human they can't afford.

 

[richaveli83]

we could continue to do nothing and watch our communities continue to decay or those people could volunteer to have reversible procedures and during the period their not able to procreate, they could do things to better themselves without the strain of having to support a small human they can't afford.

So what if the majority chose not to be sterilized? Sterilize them anyways?

 

[Matt504]

So what if the majority chose not to be sterilized? Sterilize them anyways?

if they choose not to have the reversible procedure and they go on to have children, putting a burden on the system, they should not be eligible for government assistance.

 

[horizon]

we could continue to do nothing and watch our communities continue to decay or those people could volunteer to have reversible procedures and during the period their not able to procreate, they could do things to better themselves without the strain of having to support a small human they can't afford.

1) Our communities are decaying? Provide citations and define "decaying"

2) Sterilizing the poor is fukking retarded

 

[Matt504]

1) Our communities are decaying? Provide citations and define "decaying"

2) Sterilizing the poor is fukking retarded

either our communities are decaying are they aren't.

what's retarded is giving birth to a child you can't afford to take care of.

 

[Lord_nikon]

Thid question randomly popped up in my head while i was talking to a coworker of mine. He was talking about his new child about to be born. He was excited and rightfully so but i thought about our salary at this job and i was like we only make like 30K a year. Me and him like the same age too. Why bring a kid into a situation like that?

30K isn't that bad for 1 child and married. any thing other than that your fukked lol

 

[UltimateSource]

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if they choose not to have the reversible procedure and they go on to have children, putting a burden on the system, they should not be eligible for government assistance.

"The system" is a burden on poor people. Not 1 black American asked to be in allegiance with the United States or apart of this "system".

You negroes befuddle me, speaking on behalf of America and Americas problem when America hasn't even resolved your issues yet. Youre not an American until you are afforded the same rights as every other American.

 

[Milk N Cookies]

Welfare, foodstamps & a big ass check during tax time

Don't forget the WIC benifits

 

[richaveli83]

either our communities are decaying are they aren't.

what's retarded is giving birth to a child you can't afford to take care of.

So the black community is only "decaying" because of children being born to the poor in our community? No other reason?

 

[Matt504]

So the black community is only "decaying" because of children being born to the poor in our community? No other reason?

I've never said there weren't other factors, in fact, I have countless posts discussing those factors. My question is, what reason should we bring children into the world unless we can support them considering all of the factors that aren't in our favor, it seems like the only answer is to "get our numbers up"/

 

[richaveli83]

I've never said there weren't other factors, in fact, I have countless posts discussing those factors. My question is, what reason should we bring children into the world unless we can support them considering all of the factors that aren't in our favor, it seems like the only answer is to "get our numbers up"/

I agree that having children when your finances are not good is irresponsible. I'm just not down with sterilization of black people in any shape or form based on the history of the eugenics movement and having an elitist attitude towards our people that I've been seeing.

 

[HE_Pennypacker]

I wondered why poor people have SO MANY kids. How can you have 5 kids and you were already living on the edge with one?

 

[Critical Distance]

if they choose not to have the reversible procedure and they go on to have children, putting a burden on the system, they should not be eligible for government assistance.

But they're still black living under a system of white supremacy and no kids or not, studies show most people don't do better than their parents financially.

 

[Matt504]

But they're still black living under a system of white supremacy and no kids or not, studies show most people don't do better than their parents financially.

I certainly don't increase the odds of doing better than my parents by having children I can't afford, would you agree or disagree?