Why do so many of you think that hip hop is among the largest/larger problems in the black community

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Not just the on Coli, i've noticed this in other spaces as well. Let me tell you what i notice

1- "We need to boycott all hip hop" Okay, but most nikkas aren't buying albums like that in the first place?? Seriously, who is buying CDs?? So by boycott, do you mean only listen to other genres on the radio?? Which is fine to do, but think about it, if you boycott Future's songs or any other rapper, but yet you and a lot of other black ppl are still giving your money to the local places in/near black communities like Ling Ling's Cuisine, Muhammad's corner store, Hosea's grocery store/restaurants, etc does it even matter that you "boycotted" a rap song on the radio? :heh: Why don't these nikkas see the bigger picture? You're giving most if not all your money to non black establishments, and not starting black ones. You annoucing that you threw out all your rap CDs that u burned off the computer isn't going to make a difference. I'm not saying u shouldn't do it if you want to but if u really believe that's what it will take to "change" the black community's economic condition...

WTF.

2- Dudes who talk about how hip hop is poison, destroying our communties, etc yet they see nothing abnormal about most of the businesses IN black areas being all owned by non black men :mindblown:

That's a bit more alarming, don't you think?? Truth is, so many of us are USED to seeing this that we think it's normal and think nothing of it. I almost NEVER hear these "boycott hip hop" dudes saying we shouldn't give so much of our money to asians, towelheads, etc

I'm NOT saying rap doesn't influence anyone at all, but a lot of problems we face have to do with economics, not some music :dahell:

Yes negative rap songs are an issue but they are so far down on the list of our issues that it doesn't even need to be discussed so much. Like, if you really want to improve something, let's stop giving so much our disposable income to these ppl who don't look like us, like us or want to hire us, try to start more businesses of our own and support them, employ our own people and extract wealth from other groups like they're doing to us. Let's work on this and then we talk about not listening to Lil Uzi (or whoever) anymore

A dollar circulates in Asian communties for approx a month. A dollar circulates in the black community for approx six hours.


Go ahead and tell me i'm wrong, when i'm correct :russell:
 

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"We need to boycott all hip hop" Okay, but most nikkas aren't buying albums like that in the first place?? Seriously, who is buying CDs?? So by boycott, do you mean only listen to other genres on the radio?? Which is fine to do, but think about it, if you boycott Future's songs or any other rapper, but yet you and a lot of other black ppl are still giving your money to the local places in/near black communities like Ling Ling's Cuisine, Muhammad's corner store, Hosea's grocery store/restaurants, etc does it even matter that you "boycotted" a rap song on the radio? :heh: Why don't these nikkas see the bigger picture? You're giving most if not all your money to non black establishments, and not starting black ones. You announcing that you threw out all your rap CDs that u burned off the computer isn't going to make a difference. I'm not saying u shouldn't do it if you want to but if u really believe that's what it will take to "change" the black community's economic condition...

WTF.

:mjlol:Exactly. When dudes start talking about "boycotting" rap, it destroyed the black community, etc i don't even reply anymore, the solution to our issues does not involve music in any way. What will help is supporting black businesses that already exist, stop supporting non black ones so much especially the ones who suck all the money out of our communties and don't even hire blacks, starting more black businesses that way we have more we CAN support, etc simply not listening to Tyga anymore is not a viable "solution"

And yes a lot of the dudes saying this will still go take their money to Jin Lee at the end of the day so it doesn't make any difference. Like ok, you don't listen to POWER 105 anymore, but you still give your money to non black men, and don't start black businesses. You "boycotted" rap but you can't fathom boycotting the local non black shops/delis/etc in your area :mjlol:yeah sure, listening to rap is our problem, not group economics.

If i decide to only listen to country, jazz, pop, etc but at the end of the day me and a bunch of other nikkas still give our dough to non blacks, does it even matter what i'm listening to? :stopitslime:
 

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1. Intellectual Laziness

2. The desire to be accepted by whites


The first one...I mean yo if you can't take a step back and look at history objectively and realize that the issues that plague our people have NOTHING to do with hip hop and more to do with the system itself then there's no hope for you anways.

And the second one is obvious when it comes to a lot of black people. They want to be seen as one of "the good ones" without realizing that it doesn't matter if you're one of the good ones or bad ones, they just don't like your black ass and will do anything in their power to absolve themselves of the negative end results of the forefathers actions and policies.

But most people on The Coli have no clue about Black people's history in this country. If they did they would remember that there was a point where people were getting hosed down in their Sundays best when they were just asking for EQUALITY.

Not handouts, not reparations, not revenge. Just to be treated like human beings.

And that was what? 60 years ago? You think this entire country has magically changed to not hate black people for no reason other than the fact that they're black, even though there are still people alive NOW that were alive BACK THEN? And their sons and daughters are your political reps, the bosses of your corporations, the owners of the establishments you frequent? And their grandsons and granddaughters either go to school with you or went to school with you or are your co-workers?

Yeah...it's all hip hop :mjlol:
 

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hiphop is controlled by the media.

The first step is to reject all media offerings and find other outlets.

:francis:

Breh, let's say most of us decide to stop listening to hip hop stations, watching shows with rappers on them, etc

Okay. What would that do? :mindblown: our economic situation would still be he same.

We have bigger fish to fry first. There needs be more focus on supporting already existing black businesses, pooling resources together to start more black businesses instead of giving every loose dollar to Akbar, Kung Lao and Carlos businesses for their overrated ass food, or cigarettes, chips, beer etc like let's put more emphasis on the importance of group economics, not "you shouldn't listen to rap"

Non black businesses in our areas draining us for wealth/resources, while not even hiring us in them. Black male unemployment rates at 50% in some areas, not to mention the UNDER employment rares which often goes undiscussed, yet nikkas still think turning he channel from a Kanye song is a solution? What the fukk will that do??

One of the things that hurts us the most is we aren't practicing group economics and don't even understand the importance of it

We can "boycott" certain music genres after we work on more important things
 

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I think most people just see hip hop as an emblematic reflection of some of the black communities problems moreso than think it's the actual problem itself. But the issue lies in that these depictions of dysfunction of the black community is then projected to the dominant society and then the whole world as the sole representation for the entire culture, which I agree isn't fair, but also understand isn't entirely our fault
 

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:francis:

Breh, let's say most of us decide to stop listening to hip hop stations, watching shows with rappers on them, etc

Okay. What would that do? :mindblown: our economic situation would still be he same.

We have bigger fish to fry first. There needs be more focus on supporting already existing black businesses, pooling resources together to start more black businesses instead of giving every loose dollar to Akbar, Kung Lao and Carlos businesses for their overrated ass food, or cigarettes, chips, beer etc like let's put more emphasis on the importance of group economics, not "you shouldn't listen to rap"

Non black businesses in our areas draining us for wealth/resources, while not even hiring us in them. Black male unemployment rates at 50% in some areas, not to mention the UNDER employment rares which often goes undiscussed, yet nikkas still think turning he channel from a Kanye song is a solution? What the fukk will that do??

One of the things that hurts us the most is we aren't practicing group economics and don't even understand the importance of it

We can "boycott" certain music genres after we work on more important things

You must have missed the part where I said find other outlets.

If we as a group can't do this step, forget about building an economy or community.
 

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:francis:

Breh, let's say most of us decide to stop listening to hip hop stations, watching shows with rappers on them, etc

Okay. What would that do? :mindblown: our economic situation would still be the same.

We have bigger fish to fry first. There needs be more focus on supporting already existing black businesses, pooling resources together to start more black businesses instead of giving every loose dollar to Akbar, Kung Lao and Carlos businesses for their overrated ass food, or cigarettes, chips, beer etc like let's put more emphasis on the importance of group economics, not "you shouldn't listen to rap"


Non black businesses in our areas draining us for wealth/resources, while not even hiring us in them. Black male unemployment rates at 50% in some areas, not to mention the UNDER employment rares which often goes undiscussed, yet nikkas still think turning he channel from a Kanye song is a solution? What the fukk will that do??

One of the things that hurts us the most is we aren't practicing group economics and don't even understand the importance of it

We can "boycott" certain music genres after we work on more important things

Yep. One way i do this is i get what i can from black businesses, even online if i have to, and if there's something i need that i can't find from them, then i will buy it from a non black business, and even then i try to make sure it's a place that actually has some black ppl working in there.

Dudes are regularly giving their hard earned money to places that don't even have any black faces working in them.

Not saying that places that have black employees can't still be bad, but there's no way i'm giving any money to a place that doesn't even HIRE us.
 
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