Why do so many people on Twitter HATE Bernie?

[mr. smoke weed]

@rhakim destroying the lies and bullshyt

Bernie is the man

What lies and bullshyt did he destroy?

It’s a very simple question, why doesn’t Bernie vote against Russia?

And Nap why can’t you stop being a fakkit? You make everyone else’s rational arguments seem irrational by jumping out the window

 

[mr. smoke weed]

No they don't.

With all the other deflections and ridiculousness, this is the biggest failure here. None of those things you're accusing Bernie Sanders of doing helped Russia AT ALL.

Please, you or any others being silly, explain how Bernie missing the Deripaska vote, or stating that he was in favor of sanctions against Russia but casting a symbolic no vote due to the grouping with Iran, helps Russia AT ALL?????

How does a missed vote when you're 3 votes short anyway. or a symbolic no when you voice that your no is CLEARLY due to Iran and not Russia, help Russia?

If you don’t get how someone running for Presidency in the United States in 2020, doesn’t even show up to vote to hold/dissolve sanctions against a Russian oligarch helps Russia Idk what to tell you. Hint: it makes the United States look bad. Also, it makes Bernie look sympathetic to Russia. Remember the old actions are louder than words thing? I would love for Bernie to come out and explain why some dumb shyt that happened with his campaign a few years ago, is more important than voting on sanctions against a hostile foreign enemy???

 

[Pressure]

Please, you or any others being silly, explain how Bernie missing the Deripaska vote, or stating that he was in favor of sanctions against Russia but casting a symbolic no vote due to the grouping with Iran, helps Russia AT ALL?????

And this I why I say you want it both ways. If the votes went the way of Bernie's votes then they would have benefited Russia.

If you're going to give people credit for symbolic votes as them taking a stance then they also deserve criticism for the flaws in the stances they take.

You're attempting to conflate the outcome with the position and its the position people are taking that's being criticized.

But I'll play along, what level of responsibility does Bernie Sanders hold for voting for the Clinton Crime bill? And now what does he owe black men directly as a result of voting for that terrible bill?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What lies and bullshyt did he destroy?

It’s a very simple question, why doesn’t Bernie vote against Russia?

This has been answered specifically and repeatedly in every case where it was true, and ya'all are just ignoring it in order to push your agenda.

If you don’t get how someone running for Presidency in the United States in 2020, doesn’t even show up to vote to hold/dissolve sanctions against a Russian oligarch helps Russia Idk what to tell you.

Exactly, you don't know what to tell me because there is NOTHING to tell me.

Whether they came up 3 votes short or 2 votes short doesn't affect Russia AT ALL.

Unless they got over the line, it makes not difference, and they couldn't get over the line whether he made it to vote or not.

Hint: it makes the United States look bad. Also, it makes Bernie look sympathetic to Russia.

Since Bernie EXPLICITLY said he was in favor of the vote but missed it for other reasons as his vote wouldn't have made the difference anyway, Bernie missing the vote does NEITHER of those things unless you're a conspiracy theorist.

How does it make the US look bad?

And why would Bernie OR Russia want Bernie to look sympathetic to Russia?

Remember the old actions are louder than words thing? I would love for Bernie to come out and explain why some dumb shyt that happened with his campaign a few years ago, is more important than voting on sanctions against a hostile foreign enemy???

It's 2019, and you can't figure out why how you handle #metoo allegations is more important than missing a hopeless vote?

And you even said "a few years ago" as if that matters in the #metoo era.

And this I why I say you want it both ways. If the votes went the way of Bernie's votes then they would have benefited Russia.

If you're going to give people credit for symbolic votes as them taking a stance then they also deserve criticism for the flaws in the stances they take.

Except he DID take the stance against Russia, openly and publicly, both in the 2017 vote and in the 2019 vote.

But I'll play along, what level of responsibility does Bernie Sanders hold for voting for the Clinton Crime bill? And now what does he owe black men directly as a result of voting for that terrible bill?

A lot less responsibility than Clinton.





Do you believe that Clinton holds the same level of responsibility for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act that Bush does?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Lmao you’re turning the Deripaska into some hopeless thing when it barely passed. Like I said, if you can’t see it I don’t know what to tell you. It’s like the Bernie cult (who I said I’d vote for if he was the dem nominee) wants to play semantics with his history on Russia. I don’t get why? I’m not even shytting on the dude, just asking for a plausible explanation, and not getting one

 

[Pressure]

Except he DID take the stance against Russia, openly and publicly, both in the 2017 vote and in the 2019 vote.

The question is about the sanctions in particular, since to many that was a main object for Russian election meddling and the disdain for Clinton.

A symbolic statement about Russian Sanctions, some of which have been lifted, doesn't quite rise to the occasion of being tough on Russia

Do you believe that Clinton holds the same level of responsibility for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act that Bush does?

If you vote for a bad bill, Vote against a good bill, of abstain from voting on an important bill as a congressman or a senator you deserve to be questioned on it. Especially when you're running for higher office.

It's a part of the job as a representative.

And yes, I hold Hillary Clinton accountable for voting for the Patriot although her vote wasn't the deciding vote.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The question is about the sanctions in particular, since to many that was a main object for Russian election meddling and the disdain for Clinton.

A symbolic statement about Russian Sanctions, some of which have been lifted, doesn't quite rise to the occasion of being tough on Russia

As if a US Senator in the minority party can be "tough of Russia" without the votes.

You're claiming that a symbolic statement isn't enough yet you're complaining that he was otherwise occupied so he couldn't cast a symbolic vote that would have made no difference whatsoever.

If you vote for a bad bill, Vote against a good bill, of abstain from voting on an important bill as a congressman or a senator you deserve to be questioned on it. Especially when you're running for higher office.

No one has EVER said that Bernie shouldn't be questioned on his votes. Anyone can be questioned on any vote.

The dumb shyt comes when people keep saying "he deserves to be questioned!" while repeatedly ignoring his answers which have been posted dozens of times and go back to literally before the bill was even voted on.

And yes, I hold Hillary Clinton accountable for voting for the Patriot although her vote wasn't the deciding vote.

That wasn't my question though and you know it.

Do you hold her AS responsible as you hold Bush.

 

[Pressure]

As if a US Senator in the minority party can be "tough of Russia" without the votes.

You're claiming that a symbolic statement isn't enough yet you're complaining that he was otherwise occupied so he couldn't cast a symbolic vote that would have made no difference whatsoever.

• I think he could have made the vote if he wanted to, but didn't think the vote was important enough.
• I think you should be prepared to explain your votes (symbolic or otherwise) as an elected official.
• The same goes for missing votes.

No one has EVER said that Bernie shouldn't be questioned on his votes. Anyone can be questioned on any vote.

The dumb shyt comes when people keep saying "he deserves to be questioned!" while repeatedly ignoring his answers which have been posted dozens of times and go back to literally before the bill was even voted on.

The only sound bites we have on these 5 votes are from the one vote from 2017 regarding the joint Iran/Russian Sanctions package. And that vote calls into question why he was also against the initial sanctions in 2012 that did not include Russia. This is a question that he will have to explain when asked. He has yet to do this. I know this because you haven't linked me to this response. I also could not find it any of the times I've looked.

That wasn't my question though and you know it.

Do you hold her AS responsible as you hold Bush.

She's just as responsible. She voted for it. He signed it. Then she voted again in when it was up for re authorization to make it permanent. I'm not sure what point you're making. But my answer was in line with yours and showing you being the deciding vote is irrelevant when it comes to how we view policy views nor the impact of laws. You're either with it or against it and from there you explain why. Then people use that to form a complete view of your positions.

 

[Pressure]

@Rhakim and I don't hate Bernie nor do I think he's a Russian asset. I just think he's trying not to take a stance on these foreign policy issues because they will get in the way of his all important economic message.

 

[JoogJoint]

What an a$$hole. smh

 

[JoogJoint]

Bernie sanders is an arrogant narcissistic fraud and a delusional man who has nice policy ideas with no idea how to get it to become reality. He wants racism and anti identity politics meaning anti identity civil rights to be accepted and mainstream in the democratic party. Bernie supporters refused to vote hillary and stayed home so i believe trump has a very good chance of getting releected. I will not support this piece of shyt under any circumstances. Miserable son of a bytch, he knew he had no chance of winning the nomination after the primary in the south and texas etc and yet he stayed in the race up till the convention drumming up hate and smearing hillary along with his despicable bernie bro supporters.

The earlier you accept trump getting relected in 2020 the more you can expose this piece of shyt for the fraud he is.

He voted for the crime bill
He voted against the brady bill

That alone should disqualify him.

Bernie sanders is worse than trump because he wants racism and white male hierarchy and identity politics to hated and become main stream on the left that is why he is so despicable. Him winning the nomination and getting elected will welcome white supremacy and white male hierachy in the democratic party. Thus it is a reasonable question to ask if he is any better than trump.

His supporters will cry rigged no matter what. Ignore them and accept it in your mind that trump has a very strong chance of winning re election that way his hateful supporters dont have anything to threaten you with like they did in 2016. His ideology and anti identity politics type of politics should be defeated and shown for the fraud it truly is, if that means trump relection at least then the bernie broes can be destroyed and never allowed legitimacy in the public square.

Did Bernie f_ck your woman? You have an unhealthy hatred of this man.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

@Rhakim and I don't hate Bernie nor do I think he's a Russian asset. I just think he's trying not to take a stance on these foreign policy issues because they will get in the way of his all important economic message.

You seriously wasting all my time based on THAT?

 

[JoogJoint]

Biden, that fukk who drafted the crime bill?

I like everybody overlooks the guy who created the Crime Bill, but Bernie gets all the heat for it.

Let's keep it real, MOST Democrats supported that sh_t.

 

[Pressure]

You seriously wasting all my time based on THAT?

Sorry, I had a conversation saying similar in another thread. I thought we were just fukking around.

My bad breh.

Enoyed talking to our POTY.

 

[johnedwarduado]

Did Bernie f_ck your woman? You have an unhealthy hatred of this man.

The piece of shyt and his arrogant and misogynistic supporters gave trump 2 right wing judges for 40 years+ and has allowed trump to appoint white supremacist judges to the federal courts for life time appointments. He knew he had no chance after super tuesday and yet he refused to accept defeat and went all the way to the convention. The good thing now is trump winning re election is something that is very possible and likely, so no need to pander to he and his idiotic supporters. Bernie and his supporters knew what was on the line in 2016 and refused to vote for hillary because she gave speeches to wallstreet? Congratulations! steve mnnuchin is treasury secretary and trump cabinet is made up of corrupt billonaires. Bernie sanders and his supporters have to learn their politics of division wont be accepted. He wants racism and white male hierachy to be accepted and mainstream in the democratic party like it is for the republicans. He is a despicable arrogant man.