Why do some ppl pronounce Arab "AYE-RAB"

[Formerly Black Trash]

It is most definitely an accent, are you gen z?

Bc older Black Americans have the more traditional accent and there are many words they pronounce differently that people would call wrong improper or ignorant. Definitely not racist or hateful

And they say “he’s Arab” not “an Arab” just like they say Italian as if they’re pronouncing irish

One of my personal annoyances is the way older Americans pronounce the T in immature instead of ch, and I’ve heard both races pronounce it like that.


ETA: this thread title made me think of this song which I’m sure you don’t know bc you’re gen z or younger

I'm 35

It has ALWAYS been that

Some ppl talk that way, but not everyone does

Down HERE it is definitely a class thing


Idc how yall feel, but it's true

 

[360dagod]

No different than some of them old school nikkas saying MacDonalds

nikkas gonna say shyt however they feel

 

[HarlemHottie]

I'm 35

It has ALWAYS been that

Some ppl talk that way, but not everyone does

Down HERE it is definitely a class thing


Idc how yall feel, but it's true

You not saying nothing groundbreaking.
The way we speak has ALWAYS been "a class thing," even with other black people.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

You not saying nothing groundbreaking.
The way we speak has ALWAYS been "a class thing," even with other black people.

I'm not saying it's ground breaking but I expect ppl to go in on me for saying that

 

[Still Benefited]

It’s the Black American accent. I don’t know any Black American person who doesn’t say Aye-rab, we also say uh-ray-be-in.

There shouldn’t be a problem with someone’s accent. No one else’s accent is deemed racist or ignorant so ours shouldn’t be either



It’s not a slur, it’s an accent. & I know many older Black Americans who say eye-talian, they pronounce it like the I in Irish. There are many words we pronounce differently, especially our older generations.

Stop speaking on us when it’s clear you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I only say it like that when Im talking shyt about em so maybe it can be a slur.

 

[HarlemHottie]

I'm not saying it's ground breaking but I expect ppl to go in on me for saying that

As well they should. You disrespect your ancestors and wonder why nobody respects you.

 

[Still Benefited]

Cant believe this song was allowed in recent times

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

As well they should. You disrespect your ancestors and wonder why nobody respects you.

How am I disrespecting my ancestors if you JUST agreed its a class thing?

 

[Spiider]

It’s the Black American accent. I don’t know any Black American person who doesn’t say Aye-rab, we also say uh-ray-be-in.

There shouldn’t be a problem with someone’s accent. No one else’s accent is deemed racist or ignorant so ours shouldn’t be either



It’s not a slur, it’s an accent. & I know many older Black Americans who say eye-talian, they pronounce it like the I in Irish. There are many words we pronounce differently, especially our older generations.

Stop speaking on us when it’s clear you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Uh-ray-be-in is the right pronunciation

 

[Still Benefited]

I know it’s wrong and still
Say it..coke price went up 10 grand this week fukking A rabs crash the plane into the fukkin buildings!

Yeah,folks lying they ass of talking about its an accent. Im sure it is for some,but for others its cultural like "po-lice". Youve just heard it pronounced that way enough times you naturally use it that way. And for others like me and you its a choice


If I was reading,I wouldnt pronounce it aye-rab in my head. Its just one of those words we pronounce wrong not to sound too proper/Europeanized. So it would fall under ebonics more than an "accent".

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Yeah,folks lying they ass of talking about its an accent. Im sure it is for some,but for others its cultural like "po-lice". Youve just heard it pronounced that way enough times you naturally use it that way. And for others like me and you its a choice


If I was reading,I wouldnt pronounce it aye-rab in my head. Its just one of those words we pronounce wrong not to sound too proper/Europeanized. So it would fall under ebonics more than an "accent".

Bruh thank you

Dudes trying to play dumb like I'm asking a c00n question

 

[HarlemHottie]

How am I disrespecting my ancestors if you JUST agreed its a class thing?

I didn't agree, I said that the statement wasn't revolutionary.

Unknowingly or not, you've stumbled into the anti black position on African American English Vernacular. Linguists and black scholars have worked very hard trying to impress upon the public that our speech patterns are NOT "low class", but in fact, a mirror image of the same process that created all Atlantic Creole languages (including the various 'creoles' of West Africa and the Caribbean).

Since the 1960s, when linguists began describing this language in great detail, it has gone through many name changes based on the social and political times in which it exists. Today most linguists refer to the distinctive speech of African Americans as 'Black English' or African American English (AAE). This language is a result of Atlantic creolization, with its own unique accent, grammar, vocabulary features, and dialects. We can find it spoken by some 30 million native speakers throughout the United States.

Atlantic Creole - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For reference, a similar process is how the Romance languages branched off from local versions of Latin.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Yeah,folks lying they ass of talking about its an accent. Im sure it is for some,but for others its cultural like "po-lice". Youve just heard it pronounced that way enough times you naturally use it that way. And for others like me and you its a choice


If I was reading,I wouldnt pronounce it aye-rab in my head. Its just one of those words we pronounce wrong not to sound too proper/Europeanized. So it would fall under ebonics more than an "accent".

That's literally how language works!

I'm talking to idiots.


edit: That was mean, but I'ma leave it, for the shame. But still, yall are ALARMINGLY uninformed on your own mother tongue.

 

[Paper Boi]

because we getting AYE RAB MONEY

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

I didn't agree, I said that the statement wasn't revolutionary.

Unknowingly or not, you've stumbled into the anti black position on African American English Vernacular. Linguists and black scholars have worked very hard trying to impress upon the public that our speech patterns are NOT "low class", but in fact, a mirror image of the same process that created all Atlantic Creole languages (including the various 'creoles' of West Africa and the Caribbean).

Since the 1960s, when linguists began describing this language in great detail, it has gone through many name changes based on the social and political times in which it exists. Today most linguists refer to the distinctive speech of African Americans as 'Black English' or African American English (AAE). This language is a result of Atlantic creolization, with its own unique accent, grammar, vocabulary features, and dialects. We can find it spoken by some 30 million native speakers throughout the United States.

Atlantic Creole - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For reference, a similar process is how the Romance languages branched off from local versions of Latin.

I think AAVE is a detriment so yea I'm good on that
Just because some scholars gave some shyt a name don't mean it's not a drawback for lots of ppl

And even that's a leap imo
AAVE is the way in which you use words, not how you pronounce them

First its an accent, now it's AAVE?