why do we pretend like Jay didn't kill em on renegade?

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Jay murdered Em on this. Cosign OP. Glad there are a COUPLE others on here with half a sense of what a good.


Followers are going to follow. Think who the majority of Eminems fans are. They got more in common with pill popping slut of a mother rapper than a rapper who came from the bottom and hustled his way up.

It's the same reason Drake fans love Drake. Everyone wants to see someone famous who they can relate to. Cornballs need the spotlight too.
 

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Followers are going to follow. Think who the majority of Eminems fans are. They got more in common with pill popping slut of a mother rapper than a rapper who came from the bottom and hustled his way up.

It's the same reason Drake fans love Drake. Everyone wants to see someone famous who they can relate to. Cornballs need the spotlight too.
Slept on post right here:obama:
 

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Slept on post right here:obama:


If rap was about making a dictionary rhyme I think we all could do it. If the lyrics don't mean shyt to you no matter how intricate the rhythm pattern is, it's worthless.



Logic :scusthov: might be better than Gucci Mane based on his rap skills according to some of these posters standards.


Give me Gucci all day.
 

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Maybe Jay-Z should have started by having his verses actually flow to the beat, then I could take them seriously.
 

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Let it go.

This shyt is is like Method Man and Biggie on The What but funny thing is Biggie thought Method Man murdered on his own and it's bother Biggie. Commom had to change to his verse once he heard Canibus verse and he had to make it better but Canibus still murdered it. Jay-Z actually heard Eminem verses with Royce da 5'9. Let's be honest....Jay-Z better be glad that Royce Da 5'9 ain't on it if it wasn't for Eminem vs Royce da 5'9 for real.

When this shyt dropped everybody was :gladbron::krs::ooh: on Eminem's part while he's in his prime....especially when Nas said it on Ether and and everybody was like :wow: cause you can tell Nas was like :scust: disappointed in Jay-Z like "How you gonna let a white boy murdered on your own shyt".and even still going on like "comapre Beanie to you, you wack" that shyt had us :whew: .
 

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Let it go.

This shyt is is like Method Man and Biggie on The What but funny thing is Biggie thought Method Man murdered on his own and it's bother Biggie. Commom had to change to his verse once he heard Canibus verse and he had to make it better but Canibus still murdered it. Jay-Z actually heard Eminem verses with Royce da 5'9. Let's be honest....Jay-Z better be glad that Royce Da 5'9 ain't on it if it wasn't for Eminem vs Royce da 5'9 for real.

When this shyt dropped everybody was :gladbron::krs::ooh: on Eminem's part while he's in his prime....especially when Nas said it on Ether and and everybody was like :wow: cause you can tell Nas was like :scust: disappointed in Jay-Z like "How you gonna let a white boy murdered on your own shyt".and even still going on like "comapre Beanie to you, you wack" that shyt had us :whew: .



Say let it go and proceed to write 2 paragraphs brehs...


Why is it so easy to spot y'all???
 

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Followers are going to follow. Think who the majority of Eminems fans are. They got more in common with pill popping slut of a mother rapper than a rapper who came from the bottom and hustled his way up.

It's the same reason Drake fans love Drake. Everyone wants to see someone famous who they can relate to. Cornballs need the spotlight too.

:camby:Nas said it and what exactly does he have in common with Eminem other than rapping. The Source gave Eminem a quotable and they had beef with him. From reading this post, you haven't even heard the song because Em doesn't even mention his mother and Jay's verse isn't just about hustling his way to the top. The song is about them going against what people thought they should or wanted them to be.
 

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Shady took Jay-Z to the cleaners on this one. Listening to this classic again :ahh:
 

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Since I'm in a position to talk to these kids and they listen
I ain't no politician but I'll kick it with 'em a minute
Cause see they call me a menace; and if the shoe fits I'll wear it
But if it don't, then y'all'll swallow the truth grin and bear it
Now who's these king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
Usin his music to steer it, sharin his views and his merits
But there's a huge interference - they're sayin you shouldn't hear it
Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the spirit
 

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:camby:Nas said it and what exactly does he have in common with Eminem other than rapping. The Source gave Eminem a quotable and they had beef with him. From reading this post, you haven't even heard the song because Em doesn't even mention his mother and Jay's verse isn't just about hustling his way to the top. The song is about them going against what people thought they should or wanted them to be.



Oooo Nas said it. At a time when he was beefing with Jay-Z. :stopitslime:

Get your facts together. The source wasn't beefing with eminem around the time renegade came out. Do your research.


Your reading comprehension sucks. Did I say that's what the song was about? I meant those are basically what they talk about and why people gravitate towards who.
 

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See I'm influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothin', I made somethin doin'
what I do through and through and
I give you the news - with a twist it's just his ghetto point-of-view
The renegade; you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring 'em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they moms
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies nikkaz crotched over
Mommy's knocked up cause she wasn't watched over
Knocked down by some clown when child support knocked
No he's not around - now how that sound to ya, jot it down
I bring it through the ghetto without ridin 'round
hidin down duckin strays from frustrated youths stuck in they ways
Just read a magazine that fukked up my day
How you rate music that thugs with nothin relate to
it?

And with that last line I quoted Jay even predicts what these herbs will say and ask a relevant question. How can you judge something you can't relate to. You 're guest have some respect. We know why you like the pill head and it ain't because of substance.
 

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Oooo Nas said it. At a time when he was beefing with Jay-Z. :stopitslime:

Get your facts together. The source wasn't beefing with eminem around the time renegade came out. Do your research.


Your reading comprehension sucks. Did I say that's what the song was about? I meant those are basically what they talk about and why people gravitate towards who.

Nas and The Source are the ones who are documented in saying Em murdered Jay on the song though. Neither of them fit the typical Eminem stan description you gave. That was my point.

Who people gravitate towards has nothing to do with who had the best verse. We're not talking about fans of either artist who will side with one or the other just because. This is something that was a legitimate Hip Hop discussion.
 
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