why do we pretend like Jay didn't kill em on renegade?

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I can relate to Hov's shyt..and Em just out EMCEE'd Jay on the verse...

Ole "I feel's Jay struggle rap" as niccas..

I prefer Em's verses from a technical stance along with his content relating to HIM being a renegade in the media's eye and I dont even like Em...not saying Jay didnt hold his own...but

Yeah like somebody said.. the way Jay spit that that verse could have came from reasonable doubt..
 

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All you are saying is you are a professional dikk rider :scust:
These people are just that, people. Didn't get PHD's in this, just do it cuz its what we feel na mean
So for you to act like someones opinion matters more because they got a break is rubbish.
You just don't understand WHY Jiggaz verse is better, I'll try to sum it up for you.

I can understand why someone would like Eminems verse better, its more zany and over the top. And while that is cool, the subject matter was all fictional. Jiggaz wasn't. Not only the fact it was real, it was real and it was dope. What is happening here is you are only going off of how dope a verse came off. If we talking actual content? Its not even close, Jig >>> Wig, ya dig?

Now I invite you to listen to Jiggaz verse again, but to really listen to what hes saying instead of trying to compare it to something. Or maybe you just can't relate to it :ld: If I couldn't, I wouldn't think as highly of it as I do...

Jays verse was tight and I can somewhat relate to it

BUT

It's not about relating though, it's about out rapping the other person. I guess by that logic Migos or chief keef would all have better verses than Em if they all had a track together then right?? :mjlol:

Yall nikkas copping please for jay all of a sudden and throwing all kinds of excuses on it.

Em killed jay on renegade, get over it already.
 

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We gotta stop making this thread every other month. :snoop:

Jay stans, let it go. Ya boy got bodied. It'll be okay.
 

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Jays verse was tight and I can somewhat relate to it

BUT

It's not about relating though, it's about out rapping the other person. I guess by that logic Migos or chief keef would all have better verses than Em if they all had a track together then right?? :mjlol:

Yall nikkas copping please for jay all of a sudden and throwing all kinds of excuses on it.

Em killed jay on renegade, get over it already.
Bruh, anything we say is based off of opinions. So when you try to tell me how I"m wrong, then you go "But I'm right :wrist:"
Its like, nah :stop: Was Em's verse more lyrical? Sure. But Jays verse was meaningful in a way that it EASILY makes it the better verse IMO
Your migos talk... like yeah, lets go off the deep end to discredit and ultimately confuse yourself in what my original point was

Stop that my nikka :birdman:

Now if you wasn't truly feeling the realness of Jay's verse, I understand. It could easily be overlooked when the song itself was so anticipated
Once people heard it, they go off first instinct. Best way to explain it.. Think Meek Mills diss track. Has anyone really listened to the diss?
Or did they find out what was in it by social media/etc.

See, there are levels to this shyt mang. I don't expect everyone to get get get it :handshake:
If someone says eminem was better its dikkriding? Nikka its a fact. When a well established rappers like nas and snoop and them say that it means more than what your punk ass thinks. You are still going on about it when jayz himself said its better fck boi

Its a known fact rappers such as nas are scared to do a song with eminem. most rappers are unless they want a hit you know nothing about the fukking industry and you are here attemtping to drop wisdom punk ass bytch
:snoop: Xan is it. Jay Z says a lot of things. He also says he lost to Nas... depends on what level you talking about
In the art of war, maybe Jay Z just said Nas won. You know, because at the end of the day Jay was in the wrong
I mean, he was fukking his friends baby mama, made songs about it, put Iversons name it it.. kept his name relevant longer
Nas had a hot song, but this collateral damage done to his family, his daughter.. who really won?
Destiny, your mom.... see what I'm sayin? So its funny you callin me a fukkboy, fukkboi :ufdup:

Nas is still my favorite rapper of all time.

Now, for this threads topic in particular. You can't be a fake type to fully appreciate the verse. And when I say fake type, I mean those who are not in the same struggle. Most people are not in the "struggle" na mean. But everyone wanna act like they are. Real recoginzes real tho, nuff said
See ya later stranger...
 

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First of all, He was GAy z's friend. And gay z cried in front of everyone so he lost. And

she also said Jay-Z’s better at eatin * but Nas' better at in
Yup Young Hov couldn’t get get his jigga man up after Ether burned his soul…

she said that when she was with Jay he’d ask her weird questions about her and Nas, like what positions Nas liked to hit, and weird stuff… she said Jay-Z was obsessed with Nas

she said in Jay’s Manhattan appartment Jay had a huge vinyl collection of rare Nas singles and @#%$…

That fakkit is sucking nas dikk
I'm not gonna get into a explanation war, but she wrote a book about them all.
I guess it was on SOHH, but I remember what she (carmen) said about Jay/Nas/Iverson

Nas she basically said was aight. Nothing negative, but didn't go into the positives

Jay she said he "filled her up" or some shyt basically saying he was breaking walls down (sorry Nas)

Iverson she said was her favorite and that he had stamina for days.. hours sessions they would have :manny:

When I seen these quotes from her book I was like :scust:
Not that I knew her to have an opinion, but I lose respect for WOMAN in general that day. Her love life should not be subject matter of a book imo
Because nothing is sacred to a person like that. Its what people would view as a Kardashian type move
 
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If rap was about making a dictionary rhyme I think we all could do it. If the lyrics don't mean shyt to you no matter how intricate the rhythm pattern is, it's worthless.



Logic :scusthov: might be better than Gucci Mane based on his rap skills according to some of these posters standards.


Give me Gucci all day.

I have no problem with you preferring Gucci to Logic, but you don't like him because he's saying meaningful shyt. You just enjoy his style more.
 

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I have no problem with you preferring Gucci to Logic, but you don't like him because he's saying meaningful shyt. You just enjoy his style more.

I do like Gucci because he talks meaningful shyt. Gucci had money on his head and had to catch a body over hip hop shyt. It don't get any more meaningful than your life.


Nope my point is being more technical doesn't make you a better rapper. Gucci came from the bottom, I can relate to his bars more so than a logic. Now flow wise riding a beat... of course Gucci kills him. Plus logic is just CORNY. Too many factors to list. Gucci is a better artist than Logic plain and simple.

Hip hop became powerful because of the street and telling their tales .Not because some nerd put words together.

No one feels like eminem is the best...because he has no substance.Go listen to a eminem album and for all those syllables he made rhyme shyt is still trash. No long term value. No rhythm or soul. A fuccing robot could of recorded that shyt.

That blueprint still a classic tho. I wonder why........

Substance...

Future isn't the most lyrical but his melodies...flow etc make him a better artist than eminem to me. Can't even bop my damn head listening to eminem :snoop:
 
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