Why do you hate Kobe Bryant?

[Lucky_Lefty]

@Lucky_Lefty You really think people overrate Wade? He rarely gets puts in the same air as Kobe despite better production. He's underrated. And if people are stanning for him, it's an extreme minority.

You have some that try to force him into this rarified area. I mean we had folks saying he was a HOF after the '06 Finals. That was directed more towards his stans. Honestly, I can't point to one thing STD does better than Kobe if you compare them at the same age. Then lets not talk about Wade led teams being 142-179 w/ 3 1st round exits and a 4-12 playoff record in those 4 seasons

 

[Swagnificent]

@Swagnificent,

In the 2001 playoffs, Kobe has a 55 true shooting percentage (48.4 eFG) and a 24.5 player efficiency rating.

Shaq had a 30 PER and a 57 TS.

In other words, your reaching.

Lemme guess you didn't watch the 2001 playoffs? WTF is PER breh? Keep them cac numbers at boards like realgm. Don't be bringing that shyt here. I don't care about some made up stat. 55% vs. 57% is a wash. Not much difference.

Kobe averaged 35/7/7 against the Spurs in a shocking 4 games sweep at the time. He had back to back games of 48/16 and 45/10 in game 4 against the Kings with Shaq fouling out of a close game in the 4th and in game 1 at San Antonio.

Everyone with a pair of functional eyes that saw that years playoffs know Kobe was playing better than Shaq in the Western Conference playoffs. Kobe also played better on the road and in the 4th quarters of those Western conference games.

 

[Swagnificent]

@GreatestLaker.....You know I was already on it breh. I got you


1997-2000 Kobe was definitely a sidekick. BUT, from 2001-2004, Kobe and Shaq were equals.

And for yall either too young, or too much of a hater, to remember Kobe dominated the Lakers runs through the playoffs as the #1 option up until they got to the NBA Finals when Shaq then took over.


2001 NBA Playoffs
1st Round vs Trail Blazers: Shaq averaged 27 ppg and Kobe averaged 25 ppg
2nd Round vs Kings: Kobe averaged 35 ppg and Shaq averaged 33 ppg
WCF vs Spurs: Kobe averaged 33 ppg and Shaq averaged 27 ppg

2002 NBA Playoffs
1st Round vs Trail Blazers: Kobe averaged 26 ppg and Shaq averaged 25.7 ppg
2nd Round vs Spurs: Kobe averaged 26.2 ppg and Shaq averaged 21.4 ppg
WCF vs Kings: Shaq averaged 30.3 ppg and Kobe averaged 27.1 ppg

2003 NBA Playoffs
1st Round vs Timberwolves: Kobe averaged 31.8 ppg and Shaq averaged 28.7 ppg
2nd Round vs Spurs: Kobe averaged 32.3 ppg and Shaq averaged 25.3 ppg

2004 NBA Playoffs
1st Round vs Rockets: Kobe averaged 24.2 ppg and Shaq averaged 16.2 ppg
2nd Round vs Spurs: Kobe averaged 26.2 ppg and Shaq averaged 22.5 ppg
WCFs vs Timberwolves: Kobe averaged 24.3 ppg and Shaq averaged 20.7 ppg


Out of the 11 Western Conference playoff series' they played together from 2001 until their last year in 2004, Kobe led the team in scoring in 9 of em.


Kobe was not a sidekick after their 1st championship they won together in 2000.

Great post. And just to add, Kobe was always the first option in the 4th quarters of those games. What other sidekick is the first option in the 4th quarter of close playoff games and leads the team in scoring?

 

[Newzz]

What's a sidekick? Like what Robin was to batman? Shaq was obviously the better player, but Kobe was much more than a Robin in 01 and 02. I would say its more like Superman and Batman. Superman is obviously the better of the two, but no one in their right mind would call batman a sidekick.

You're absolutely right.


Shaq wasnt carrying Kobe and Kobe wasnt carrying Shaq.


They were both elite players playing together. No sidekicks either way.


Justice League.


Shaq could do more of the heavy lifting in the 1st 2 and half quarters while Kobe would step on their throats starting in the late 3rd and 4th quarters.


Perfect balance + awful teammates to each other = 4 NBA Finals Appearances in 5 years (2000-2004) and 3 rings

 

[Greenhornet]

kobe makes it squirt

 

[RedBull]

I've NEVER been a huge fan of Kobe and I even hate him (non-basketball reasons) but DAMN....brothers up here are ridiculous. Brothers are nitpicking every aspect and grain of Kobe's game, the first ring he was a complete sidekick, the next 2 rings he was 1a or 1b and his last 2 rings he was the man? Really? Never in my years of following basketball have I heard such distain for a player since Jordan (yes Jordan was nitpicked BEFORE he started winning rings, but the web wasn't around so the caliber wasn't as high as Kobe) Does anyone nitpick Magic's 5 rings? Nope! Magic wasnt always the bst player on his team during those championship years. He had argubly the GREATEST PLAYER EVERRRRRR in Kareem to PASS to most of his career, does that make Magic a career sidekick..even though HE NEVER WON A DAMN THING WITHOUT KAREEM?Does anyone scrutinize Bird's 3 rings? Nope! For Heaven's sake Cornbread Maxwell won a finals MVP, but does that diminish Bird's play and leadership? Yes, I always been a Kobe hater, but besides his dumb shot selection and his sometimes b***hassness you really can't be seriously hating on this man and what he's done ON the court. 30,000 points and he's overrated? GET REAL! Learn the game and enjoy game for what it is, not for what you're making it. Kobe Bryant.......overrated? Top 15? On the same level as a career loser in Drexler? Damn you brothers are lost.

Threadstarter won, he exposed all of these ignorant minds as well as bringing out the honesty in the people who purposely troll Kobe stans. With that said......F Kobe! He wanna be Mike!

 

[Swagnificent]

Once again. When's the last time a sidekick was counted on to win close games in the 4th quarter cause the #1 option can't make free throws? Kobe won Game 4 of the 2000 NBA Finals by himself after Shaq fouled out. He brought the team back in game 7 against the Blazers when they were down 17 in the 4th quarter.

Even when he was the #2 option, Kobe was the one closing out games and hitting all the clutch shots. I don't remember Pippen getting the ball to close the Jazz out.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

This has really been a constructive thread and I hope to get more discussion from those that show so much animosity towards a nikka they never even met before. I know there's more people out there lookin to get the hate off they chest.

 

[Yungin]

This has really been a constructive thread and I hope to get more discussion from those that show so much animosity towards a nikka they never even met before. I know there's more people out there lookin to get the hate off they chest.

nikkaz in here are funny as shyt...one nikka had the nerve to write a essay on all the bad shyt Kobe did but was a Vince carter fan

 

[AVXL]

nikkaz in here are funny as shyt...one nikka had the nerve to write a essay on all the bad shyt Kobe did but was a Vince carter fan

Seems all those truths hurt your soul huh bro? Good to see you nor any other Kobe Stan had the heart to respond to the basketball reasons I listed.

Carry on

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Of course you can be overrated with 30,000 points.

The term overrated is relative. Obviously he doesn't suck. But were talking about a player who constantly comes up in comparisons to two players (LeBron, MJ) who blow him away statistically and he doesn't belong in a box with.

He's had favorable team circumstances nearly his whole career that have helped him build a great legacy, and with things like the 30,000 points you mentioned, he's reached grand big totals because he's taken more shots than all but four other players in NBA history.

6-0, 5-2, 1-2.

Which one doesn't belong in the box?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

nikkaz in here are funny as shyt...one nikka had the nerve to write a essay on all the bad shyt Kobe did but was a Vince carter fan

I'm sayin, where do you get off hatin Kobe that much but you was a Vince Carter fan. I'd hate Vince for not amounting to shyt more than I'd hate on a nikka that does what it takes to win and provide great entertainment. nikkaz is hilarious when it comes to Kobe, all this shyt is legit fascinating to me.

 

[AVXL]

I'm sayin, where do you get off hatin Kobe that much but you was a Vince Carter fan. I'd hate Vince for not amounting to shyt more than I'd hate on a nikka that does what it takes to win and provide great entertainment. nikkaz is hilarious when it comes to Kobe, all this shyt is legit fascinating to me.

Seems all those truths hurt your soul huh bro? Good to see you nor any other Kobe Stan had the heart to respond to the basketball reasons I listed.

Carry on

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

VXL
Obviously the snitching & raping of white women is tops among the list. I didn't see his Italian rapping as a reason, but that should get mention. Alotta you young nikkaz don't remember that Kobe was that corny nikka for the longest time...he didn't become beloved by stans like he is now till Shaq left

But ima keep it basketball for a second so y'all know my reasons for not fukking with this nikka are legit:

1. Calling out a young Bynum in radio interviews over the summer of 07 & then demanding a trade as soon as the following season started. bytch moves franchise players DON'T do. - He demanded the trade in the summer actually and the Lakers didn't bite. Media Day was huge that year because of it. Him shyttin on Bynum isn't really a basketball reason to be honest. He was asked a question and he gave an honest answer, but the way you speak of the nikka you'd prolly expect a fake ass PC answer. If your trying to contend for titles and your front office isn't doing enough to make that happen why not protest? Imagine if he stayed quiet like KG did all those years, him speaking up woke the organization up cuz moves needed to be made.

2. Game 7 in PHX in 06. The nikka quit on his team in what looked like a form of protest. He just chucked up jump shots with no heart. It was almost like he was saying "y'all think y'all can win without me? Lets find out." And he did absolutely nothing to prevent the loss. Heartless shyt from Kobe - Both Kobe and Phil confirmed that the idea in the 2nd half was to get everyone else involved. The Lakers success in that series was that there was production coming from other people besides Kobe. The series was lost in 6 to be real, that team as constructed couldn't of risen to the occasion. But even I'll admit, I would of preferred to just see him shoot and say fukk teammates when they kept brickin.

2. Game 6, 08 Finals in BOS. The nikka quit AGAIN. Lakers fans be real for a second. All the nikka would do is jack 3's as the Lakers got routed. He didn't drive or attack & quit on his team. The way he played in that Game 6 was inexcusable & I lost respect for him as a player & competitor. - lol, I'ma need someone that remembers this series to let this nikka know. I literally deleted that debacle from my mind.

Besides being a hoe ass nikka & adopting this "a$$hole" persona that clearly ain't him, dude is a phony ass snitchin ass nikka. He's a HOF player no doubt, but he's a bytch. A hoe ass bytch

I'd reply to all the extra bullshyt but you said basketball only and I respect you tryna keep it there despite the real life scornful feelings.

 

[BrothaZay]

lets see hes a rapist, adulteror, ball hog, chucker, snitch, c00n.

Hmm, funny, I always thought those were postives on the coli