Why do you hate Kobe Bryant?
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AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
Oh and he gave himself a nickname
After a snake no less
Is there any culture or civilization that has EVER respected a snake?
Was Vince for a minute, LBJ since 08, OG MJ stan, Hawks fan for life
But I gave all those reasons so folks know my reasons are real...not on some I don't like his name or how he smiles bullshyt. It's funny b/c white America & the media love him now, but he's still my most hated/least liked player this side of KG
So I'm interested to find out what's your take on Lebron quitting on his team then leaving to go play with a top 5 player who already has a ring?
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
So I'm interested to find out what's your take on Lebron quitting on his team then leaving to go play with a top 5 player who already has a ring?
None of that has anything to do with THIS thread. Why don't you go make a "Why do you hate LeBron James?" Thread & maybe you'll get an answer & maybe a plat thread too. Good luck
So putting up 27/5/6 on 47% shooting at 34 years old as a 17 year veteran exposes Kobe? The guy just had back to back 40/12 games a couple of weeks ago which hasn't been done since MJ in 1989.
You haters really are something else. How on earth can a 5 time champion, 2 time finals MVP, perennial All-Star be exposed? At this point in his career, Kobe is only adding to his legacy. He can't detract from it.
how is he a c00n ?whats ya def of a c00n
AND WHY DO U CALL HIM A RAPIST ?????????????he was never found guilty and if u look at the case you can see it was some bullshyt
Kobe's style was the same as Jordan's. Only difference is Kobe took more 3s. If you hate Kobe then you must have hated Jordan right?
Don't bring up FG% cause that isn't the only indicator of efficiency. Kobe's scoring efficiency is right there with MJ.
Career TS% (combines FG%, 3FG%, and FT%)
Kobe - 55.5%
Jordan - 56.9%
A difference of 1.4% is not sufficient enough IMO to say one is WAY MORE efficient than the other. Jordan was definitely more efficient. However, that doesn't mean Kobe was in turn an inefficient chucker simply because he shot 1.4% less.
Ok, then don't argue.
whats ya def of a c00n
he was never found guilty and if u look at the case you can see it was some bullshyt
don't waste your time with the white boys
we all know that only they are still on that rapist tip
and how on earth can a white boy know what a c00n is?
Oh he's very hated. What other NBA player has his accomplishments downplayed more than Kobe? He's got 5 titles yet people still question whether he can lead a team?
Those 5 titles are obviously impressive. But as far as leading a team.... I'd say that is debatable at least. His talent and accomplishments are not. But as a leader, I'd say it is. We've seen Kobe give up (vs Suns). Not only that, I don't see that he has the qualities that make a great leader. But I give him credit that he has tried several ways to make his team better: score 40+, create shots for others, publicly blast them, team meetings, etc.
The problem is you have a bunch of individual egos that make up a team. They gotta get that ego stroked differently. There's no blanket solution unless everyone's on the same page already. So when he steps up his offense and defense, you'd think that would inspire his teammates to do the same. Not always the case though. I think a good leader will also have the support of his players 100%. Like his teammates would "take a bullet for him" type shyt. Kobe seems to be a polarizing dude not just for everyone else but even in his own team.
Lakers would be way better off if the team decided this year they were gonna get Kobe his 6th. That's what happened the year Dallas won the championship. Guys were trying to bring a championship to Dallas, but also to get Dirk his first. I think that's far from the case in LA though.
Here's the thing about that.
And eFG% is a factor too, but your TS% point is valid. The thing is, 1.4% over long careers isn't that small.
Also, when comparing complete careers, it's important to note peak. Peak performance tells you in greater detail who was better at their best. Jordan had a TS% of over 60 four times, including 61.4% one year. Kobe's career best was 58, second best was 57.6 and he never touched 57 again (Not counting this season as it is incomplete).
So, at their peaks, Jordan was 2-3 points higher, and held that peak longer, which is notable. Effective FG% , which is only production from the field and doesn't include FT's, has an even wider gap.
Now to the actual point.
I wholly disagree with your point that they play the same. You said it yourself, Kobe takes a lot more three's. At his peak he was taking 5 or 6 a game.
Those times that Kobe settles for contested 3-pointers or he pulls up for ill advised ones, over time, make for a difference.
Of course they are similar. They play the same positions and score from some of the same places, but in watching them both, I felt like Jordan played a more intelligent game, and was open to passing in more situations. I feel like Kobe often pre determines what he wants to do, and if he's determined to isolate, he abandons team concepts.
So putting up 27/5/6 on 47% shooting at 34 years old as a 17 year veteran exposes Kobe? The guy just had back to back 40/12 games a couple of weeks ago which hasn't been done since MJ in 1989.
You haters really are something else. How on earth can a 5 time champion, 2 time finals MVP, perennial All-Star be exposed? At this point in his career, Kobe is only adding to his legacy. He can't detract from it.
The numbers are a given, expect for the fact that he's having a near career year efficiency wise. Individually he's been good.
But when someone says exposed, they talk about style. Like, despite the injuries, Kobe still has had chances to defer more for more efficient options and he doesn't. When he does, it's premeditated assist hoarding.
His attempts are always there, and that means the raw scoring will be. But I thought, especially with the Princeton hype that faded, that it was going to be a more balanced team.
Kobe has a volume scorer's game, he's just so much more talented other chuckers that he can sustain some efficiency. But that doesn't lend itself to fair shot distribution all the time.
the guy won 5 titles.....1 as a sidekick.....2 as a co-star.....and 2 as the main manhow anyone can question his ability to lead a team is beyond comprehension IMO
you might not like him and his teammates might not like him either but that doesn't mean he ain't a leader
results matter not whether you like the guy and Kobe's championship rings are evidence of his results
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personally- i think he's a supreme offensive player but he initially turned me off with the arrogance back when he initially won with shaq because even though he put in work then- he was obviously the 2nd option. they would not have been in that contention then without shaq.
then went shaq left, he got the brunt of criticism because he made the lakers choose then went he got his team built around him, he wanted out cause it wasn't what he thought.
overall i still love watching him on offense, but he just so ball dominant which has affected the lakers this year- there's no reason why he shouldn't limit his attempts when we know he can get his- help your teammates get comfortable- dwight need touches, nash works better with the ball and gasol need some touches also. his arrogance is a gift and curse. he's never truly learned to play within the flow of the game. i just see him as somebody whose a great player but teammates won't follow behind him. i don't hate him. he's a top 12 player ever at minimum
then went shaq left, he got the brunt of criticism because he made the lakers choose then went he got his team built around him, he wanted out cause it wasn't what he thought.
overall i still love watching him on offense, but he just so ball dominant which has affected the lakers this year- there's no reason why he shouldn't limit his attempts when we know he can get his- help your teammates get comfortable- dwight need touches, nash works better with the ball and gasol need some touches also. his arrogance is a gift and curse. he's never truly learned to play within the flow of the game. i just see him as somebody whose a great player but teammates won't follow behind him. i don't hate him. he's a top 12 player ever at minimum