@TheGooniestGoon i see you finally learned how to spell well enough to create another alt lil bill.
Try not to kill yourself today.
Try not to kill yourself today.
Why do you think suffering exists/is so prevalent in the world?
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I think you guys are approaching "suffering" from a magnified perspective, focusing on general sadness or depression in lives of people that for the most part, don't have it as bad as they might think, thus the possibility of simply "changing perspective" to deal with suffering.
I'm approaching "suffering" from a sensory (pain receptor) and cognitive (central nervous system present) perspective. With that, anything with those two features, at least to our current understanding of the subjective experience, is capable of suffering.
With that, it would logically follow that the only way to eliminate suffering is to circumvent the two components seemingly necessary for suffering.
Fillerguy
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Consider this:
Suicide in primary headaches in 48 countries: A physician-survey based study - PubMed
Aim To investigate the relationship between primary headache types and accomplished or attempted suicide in countries from all world regions. Methods Data were obtained using a questionnaire about suicide due to headache in a face-to-face interview with 203 physicians with expertise in...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
How are these people able to change their perspective on life? Their simple biological makeup prevents this from being possible so long as they are capable of experiencing pain, and this doesn't even take into account the effects that these headaches can still have on the body, regardless of the capacity to experience pain.
This is literally my life.
My face is twisted like avi like 80% of the time. Temple vein and everything. Ppl like I'm mean mugging them....no! I'm in fukking pain! I guess these count as suicidal thoughts but I wondering how much I would get if I took a hammer to my skull. I don't want to die though but this shyt be testing me. Changing my diet helped alot. My great grandpop died when he was 35... fam says I have headaches like him. Breh came home early one day from work, said his head was killing him more than usual, went to sleep, never woke up again. I'm 33
Complexion
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Whilst I see your perspective your point is akin to removing the bulb from behind the dash for when the service light comes on. Granted that is the secret basis of psychiatry but I'm interested in the prime cause, the root of this state and its universality across the race.
I'd be willing to bet you are deficient in Magnesium. Most people are due to the way food is manufactured these days and its an essential mineral responsible for over 400 processes in the body. Try:
Magnesium Malate - 1.5 grams from rising till 4PM.
Magnesium Glycinate - 1.5 grams between 4PM and sleep.
Reason being for the two types is the first one energizes, second sedates. Some people find the stimulation from the first means they can't sleep later that night whilst others have reported the second taken early just makes them feel too mellow to do anything. You may need to play around with the doses to find your sweet spot and if you're totally deficient then it might take a month to saturate your system but I've used this protocol on people who were so close to the edge they felt like throwing themselves off it to ease their pain and they couldn't believe the difference.
Buy high quality, non filler filled, solo versions of the above. The powders have a crazy taste but are cheaper, capsules cost more and are easier to take so the choice is yours. In general everyone should be taking Magnesium as everyone is deficient in it, especially those with active lifestyles.
Fillerguy
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I was on the verge of trying magnesium a few years ago. My eye doctor recommended it, I'm pre glaucomic or whatever its called. I have been since I was a kid and my headaches seem to trigger whenever my eye pressure was extremely high or extremely low...sometimes anyway. But ever since I changed my diet, low sodium, fat, almost no sugar, mostly drinking water, adding more vitamin D, weight training.....most of my headaches aren't as intense and only last a few minutes.
But you're right. We should all be adding extra magnesium to our diets. Especially ppl who are at risk for high blood pressure.
MischievousMonkey
Gor bu dëgër
You don't have to be 6 certs 6 figures 6 packs to disagree with this premisse.
I don't know who you're talking to to assert that most people think their life is filled with more suffering than joy. If the starting point is flawed then the whole reasoning falls apart.
Complexion
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It can be a game changing supplement for people who weren't aware they were deficient and spent lots of time in trying to fix seemingly disparate problems as they didn't spot the link:
Fatigue, Tinnitus, Anxiety, Arrhythmia, Numbness, Kidney Stones, Nausea, Digestive Issues, Mood Swings.
The list is endless. Its worth reading up on the different types and their affinities and outcomes. As a rule anything that ends in -ate is cool and the Oxide version is best avoided as it can't be absorbed.
Guess which one is on most shelves and used in most multivitamins?
Earlier, in this post:
"If people truly kept it real instead of wearing masks it would be a lot more evident than it is. Maybe that's why they wear masks?"
Most of the people most people interact with are masked personas most of the time. People in general do not talk about it directly or won't admit it if asked but then launch into a tirade about how bad their life is due to this, that and the other... This dissonance prevents them from realizing this because the mask says "I am this" whilst the real person inside feels something else. If you know what to look for its quite obvious but getting them to see this is a whole nother skill.
Try an experiment. Start talking about it with people IRL and see what happens. Just ask them their ratio of suffering to happiness this far in their life and tell them not to answer now but to get back to you later after percolating on it.
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
It boils down to people being too self servicing and greedy. There are millionaires to billionaires who still feel like they don't have enough money. Of couse it doesn't stop there.
Vandelay
Life is absurd. Lean into it.
Entropy of an isolated system always increases.
A lot of people especially in western world can reduce suffering by being more grateful regardless of any terrible circumstance you're in and to be strong-minded enough to know nothing in life is permanent if you're working towards your purpose.
Also developing the ability to stay even keel, in this life you're gonna experience things that make you happy and things that disappoint you until you pass away. Drilling that in your head and the ability to handle the inevitable disappointments life throw at you is how you balance a healthy mental state.
Also developing the ability to stay even keel, in this life you're gonna experience things that make you happy and things that disappoint you until you pass away. Drilling that in your head and the ability to handle the inevitable disappointments life throw at you is how you balance a healthy mental state.
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running the worst programming generation after generation
99.9% of humanity is dumb as fukk & will not correct themselves
life is a feedback loop if you were born to win then just enjoy the ride it's automatic ha
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99.9% of humanity is dumb as fukk & will not correct themselves
life is a feedback loop if you were born to win then just enjoy the ride it's automatic ha
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Suffering is supposed to invokean awakening/spiritual revolution. But too many humans profit from or ignore it that the debate about self will/ reliance on a higher power will rage on until divine intervention is warrented.
Complexion
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This is exactly it. Its why I say the wounded womb hurts the seeds it births inadvertently. Add that up over generations on top of generations and you get this. The total lack of awareness in this in most people, however, is something else. Willful ignorance at its finest. A conspiracy theorist might say it was arranged this way on purpose...
Like I said, psychiatry is the manifestation of this denial drive as opposed to addressing the actual true root cause. Modern society is built up on some crazy things if you ever stop and look into the imperatives that most people operate under and without any awareness of.
MischievousMonkey
Gor bu dëgër
I lived most of my life in a culture where the mask you're talking about consists of complaining about life most of the time. I'm willing to try the experiment but I'm pretty sure the results won't validate the premisse.
Polls don't validate it: New poll shows record-breaking happiness in America despite COVID-19, politics, climate change
It's easy to hyper-focus on suffering and struggles but it's not fair to not give equal attention to joy wherever we find it.
Enjoying a meal, spending time with family, taking a warm shower, having a laugh, are all sources of joy and privilege people who hyper-focus on suffering (and/or are depressed) won't take into account while attributing heavy weights to their issues.
Do you think that a thread called "why do you think joy is so prevalent in the world" would have made just as much sense as this one?
Complexion
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You know what they say about statistics. On the flip:
www.theatlantic.com
From 2009 to 2021, the share of American high-school students who say they feel “persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness” rose from 26 percent to 44 percent, according to a new CDC study. This is the highest level of teenage sadness ever recorded.
Men lie, women lie but one who can see, sees. The BSing is rife these days, so much so that its been pretty much normalized.
I agree about gratefulness as a method of elevation along with the fact that most people have (comparatively speaking) got it made compared to previous generations but its actually way deeper than this as the anomie of which I speak is currently sprinkling the seeds that will generate future societies.
Try the experiment. You may be surprised by what you find. There is a definite reason for allowing them to percolate and not answer immediately so ensure to include that for most accurate results.
Why American Teens Are So Sad
Four forces are propelling the rising rates of depression among young people.
www.theatlantic.com
Men lie, women lie but one who can see, sees. The BSing is rife these days, so much so that its been pretty much normalized.
I agree about gratefulness as a method of elevation along with the fact that most people have (comparatively speaking) got it made compared to previous generations but its actually way deeper than this as the anomie of which I speak is currently sprinkling the seeds that will generate future societies.
Try the experiment. You may be surprised by what you find. There is a definite reason for allowing them to percolate and not answer immediately so ensure to include that for most accurate results.