Why does Detroit and The Bay Area have similar styles?

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The midwest in general has this weird connect with the bay in the streets and rap wise, been that way for a minute even without noticing the cross over with the different styles.



Less about the actual 'music' sounding like it's from the bay and more about the resurgence of that conversational, E-40 type flow that nikkas just tag on the bay overall instead of giving the individual his just due as an influential MC.

POst some bay music that influenced to Detroit rappers like Sada Baby and Tee Grizzyly then

I don't hear it I don't see it, it don't exists lmao

You not from Detroit, E-40 the only bay area Detroit nikkaz fukked with and thats back in the day, not these young nikkaz

Gucci, Jeezy, and BG might as well be from Detroit they the biggest out of town rappers in the city, and they biggest market outside of the south stop it man, stop talking about shyt you don't know nothing about

nobody banging no hyhpy, no goddamn mac dre, or no goddamn mistah fab, I can't even name nobody else because nobody listen to that bay shyt in detroit, Yukmouth might be in some old nikka system lmao
 
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In real life, Detroit has way more in common with other midwest cities like Chicago and Gary.

I have no idea how or why the music now sounds like its out of the Bay Area

It don't, Bay area irrelevant in rap now and trying hop on Detroit wave like its apart of it

How these nikkaz from I got 5 on it, To Tee Grizzly lmao fukk outta here with that shyt

Bay was poppin in the 90s, and a little resurgence with that hyphy shyt, which was wack, and fell the fukk off, shyt don't sound nothing like this Detroit MUSIC NOTHING

That's why that can't post no receipts, no music, no nothing, keep that goofy shyt on the left coast
 

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It don't, Bay area irrelevant in rap now and trying hop on Detroit wave like its apart of it

How these nikkaz from I got 5 on it, To Tee Grizzly lmao fukk outta here with that shyt

Bay was poppin in the 90s, and a little resurgence with that hyphy shyt, which was wack, and fell the fukk off, shyt don't sound nothing like this Detroit MUSIC NOTHING

That's why that can't post no receipts, no music, no nothing, keep that goofy shyt on the left coast
I think they're talking about the off time flow like a e40 or Suga Free

I dont listen Bay Area rap...so I cant say if it sounds like Bay Area or not
 

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It's a couple reasons that are more common than others:

--People legit have family out there. Although we mostly moved out West from TX, LA, and MS generations ago, there were large numbers of families moving from Chicago and Detroit between 1940-1970 (after already moving once from the south up to the Midwest) to LA and Oakland.

--Detroit & The Bay have had street ties for years, flat out, especially in rap since Street Lord'z.
 
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I think they're talking about the off time flow like a e40 or Suga Free

I dont listen Bay Area rap...so I cant say if it sounds like Bay Area or not

These nikkaz rap off beat because they not real rappers, these hood nikkaz the shyt is a hustle to them

these nikkaz just getting better at it, they not real rappers

Big Herk and j nutty, nikkaz like that actually can rap, boldy james can rap, Detroit is music versatile

The soulful hip hops hit came from Detroit, New York had the Hardcore Boom Bap they soul samples was never smooth, Kanye stole J dilla hard drive to get his drums, he even tried to take Eminem snares and got caught

Tee Grizzly rap off beat because he sucks, he's not copying e-40 or no damn suga T lmao
 

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The connection between Detroit and Cali cities goes back years. From Motown moving to LA, Dilla coming to LA and blowing up the beat tape scene. Hell even Em going to LA to work with Dre.
No disrespect, but you talking about Detroit's connection to LA.

The bay music has a whole different sound and feeling than LA
 

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Smh the coli never lets up on its bay area slander.

A LOT of detroit rap sounds like shyt you would've heard released by 40's Sick Wid It records back in the 90s. No one sounds like 40, but a WHOLE LOT of motherfukkers sound like his brother B Legit.

This isn't surprising given that Bay Area rappers used to have a heavy presence throughout the Midwest. Cities like Akron, Kansas City, and Detroit have deep ties with the Bay Area rap scene, and up until recently, Bay Area artists would tour almost exclusively through the midwest. For whatever reason, the Bay exported a lot of records to the region.































Interesting how the Pac song Payroll redid was the bay area posse cut, produced by two bay area producers, and is an example of the mobb music sound. As it turns out, Bay Area rap history isn't just hyphy music.

Detroit and the Bay have a few similarities, but frankly they're still unique enough for me to differentiate. Other cities like Akron and Portland (I'd imagine Seattle would too but I never check music from out there) used to sound straight like some Bay shyt. Detroit was never that.

Detroit is easily the hottest scene in America right now, and I think people are going to be shocked to see that Detroit has more or less had the same sound for the past ten years. Detroit rappers been dropping heat for the past decade, it's just that most of the country was infatuated with Atlanta. Nonetheless, the bay and Detroit showed a lot of love towards one another during this time, resulting in a lot of collaborations between the regions.


HATTIE COLLINS

Just going back to that track, that “Pockets Fat” track. You can feel quite a strong E-40, bay area...

DANNY BROWN

Oh yeah. In Detroit that’s a big influence, period. You can’t go nowhere without hearing bay influenced music. I remember, even I was thinking about that, I remember my first underground artist I ever heard in my life was Too Short, where I realized it. I would hear rap music on the radio and I would see rap music videos on TV. Then I knew my uncles and my cousin, they played this one tape that I never heard nowhere else besides them motherfukkers playing it. It had like 1,000 cuss words every two minutes. It was Too Short, it was Freaky Tales. I knew that it was another side of it. I see all this MC Hammer and all whatever, Vanilla Ice, all that commercial rap. People that I was hanging around in the hood, they wasn’t listening to that stuff.

HATTIE COLLINS

That opened the door for you to discover that whole west coast.

DANNY BROWN

Yeah, yeah. It started with Too Short. Like I said, when I went to my friend’s house we played Spice 1. My dad didn’t really listen to too much west coast rap. The only thing he listened to west coast was Ice T, NWA. Which, really, if you think about it, NWA was kind of like Bomb Squad influence because he loved Public Enemy. Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest is my dad’s favorite shyt. That’s all I heard going to school, him taking me to school. On the drives it was Public Enemy, Eric B. & Rakim. The real good stuff, the good rap.

HATTIE COLLINS

What was it about the bay area stuff that you just felt more connected to? Apart from any swearing or whatever.

DANNY BROWN

I think, in some sense, it’s not necessarily even me, I think it’s Detroit in general, is that we kind of share the same mentality with Oakland and northern California for some reason. I don’t know, I guess it’s just the whole hustle and I guess the pimping. It’s the pimping. It’s the whole pimp vibe. I guess we just get influenced by it.

Detroit, we grew up on that whole pimp shyt of wearing suits and gaiters and shyt. Oakland, they live that lifestyle, and San Francisco, the bay, they live that lifestyle to the fullest. I guess, in some sense, Detroit looks up to that.

HATTIE COLLINS

From discovering all that, E-40 and Too Short and all those people, where did that lead you to next as a rapper? What else did you discover and how did you discover it?


DANNY BROWN

Yeah, the bay and Detroit, our connection. Even if you go and listen to more Detroit underground artists, the street rappers, it’s totally by influenced. Like Cashout Doughboyz and then before them it was like Street Lordz and Chedda Boyz. All that was bay area influenced. Even that, like E-40 and B-Legit and all them, they would hang out in Detroit.

There wasn’t too many rappers that would come and be in the hood of Detroit. You can go to a clothing store on Seven Mile and E-40’ll be hanging out. That was a big deal to us because there wasn’t too many rappers that would come to Detroit and wanted to get into our culture of the hood shyt. E-40 was like... That’s why I love him so much. He’s one of my biggest influences in rap, like a mentor to me. Every time I talk to him, I probably get on his nerves when I talk to him because he probably just want to kick it and just be cool and it probably feels like a fukking interview when I’m with him. I’m always asking him shyt, like, “Give me the game big homie, give me the game.” That’s all I tell him.
 
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The midwest in general has this weird connect with the bay in the streets and rap wise, been that way for a minute even without noticing the cross over with the different styles.



Less about the actual 'music' sounding like it's from the bay and more about the resurgence of that conversational, E-40 type flow that nikkas just tag on the bay overall instead of giving the individual his just due as an influential MC.


Chicago and St Louis two places I’ve been to don’t feel or sound like they connected to the bay at all.


Milwaukee and Detroit do tho.
 

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I always wanted to know what was the name of that specific bassline that both of em use in they beats & where it started from . That deep bass be dark af

that sound originally comes from the 'Moog' Synthesizer i believe.

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Yea The Bay and Detroit are cousin/sister cities. I don’t quite know the details but the music is very similar and style.
 
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