In The Zone '98
Superstar
Getting shots up. Scored 10 every game so far.
Why does it feel like Jonathan Kuminga is still being slept on?
- Thread starter Gil Scott-Heroin
- Start date
Getting shots up. Scored 10 every game so far.
Can't link it, but Legler is talking about Kuminga on his podcast that he dropped today
It's at the 40 minute mark on the vid, search ALL NBA Podcast on Youtube to find it.
It's at the 40 minute mark on the vid, search ALL NBA Podcast on Youtube to find it.
He seems ok has potential warriors kind of ruined it. Not sure he deserves a thread could be wrong in the future. Don't think he's getting slept on he just hasn't showed much at all. Crazy athletic but hasn't hit that next level where I think damn he's great at this
if he was on a mid tier team he'd be doing/showing more. thats the reality of the situation.
for instance if he was on a team like OKC instead of Jalen Williams,
that being said I agree that I need to see the 3 pt fall more
yseJ
Empire strikes back
his bball iq is really low and the game seems too fast for him sometimes, this is what is stopping him. well, that and his shot is very inconsitent
with poole gone, his boneheaded plays stand out more too
yesterday he had an open layup with no one in front of him and instead of dunking that bytch like he can with his athleticism he bricked it
with poole gone, his boneheaded plays stand out more too
yesterday he had an open layup with no one in front of him and instead of dunking that bytch like he can with his athleticism he bricked it
cleanface coney
Superstar
It start at like 38 minutes I watched some of it.
I agree sometimes he don't punish the smaller dudes but he 21 cmon are you serious
Then Legler praised the Warriors development staff
WHO HAVE THEY DEVELOPED??!!
Mark Jackson drafted them boys Steve Kerr ain't coaching shyt
Outside gp2 who turned up in the Warriors system? And obviously that's bay area politics they gave him a chance and let him play his game
Name 1 player Steve Kerr drafted that turned up
cleanface coney
Superstar
Poole is a Beilein turn up Steve Kerr ain't coaching shyt
Frangala
All Star
Has improved this year. Three point shot looking better, you can tell he has worked over the summer on it. He needs reps. He is averaging 12PPG playing 20 MPG and 40% FG.
There are pros and cons to being in a championship aspiring team like GS, the benefit is that you get to learn a lot from winning players/organization and the downside is that vets are still relatively in their primes/competing for a championship which means less minutes and always worrying about not making mistakes due to limited time.
Would like to see him in Toronto since they have the rep of developing young talent.
There are pros and cons to being in a championship aspiring team like GS, the benefit is that you get to learn a lot from winning players/organization and the downside is that vets are still relatively in their primes/competing for a championship which means less minutes and always worrying about not making mistakes due to limited time.
Would like to see him in Toronto since they have the rep of developing young talent.
Looney
Yeah idk what people in this thread are actually talking about. There's no way you watched Kuminga from his rookie season to now and can confidently say that he's improved
-Tonight's game against the SAC Kings showed us why he was unplayable in the postseason. Blown coverages, bad positioning, dumb fouls, dumb shots, turnovers, bad team defense, bad rebounding
for those that don't know, Kuminga was tasked with showing more effort on the boards. That was his main assignment from Kerr and the coaching staff. He was supposed to work on that during the offseason. As it stands right now, Kuminga is currently on a 3 game streak of having ONE rebound per game. Kuminga is averaging 1 rebound per game for his last 3 games.
His 3P shot has never been good. As a rookie, he shot 33% on 2.1 attempts per game. That is less than 1 make per game.
His second year, he shot 37% on 2.2 attempts per game. Again, less than 1 make per game. The ONLY reason his percentage jumped from 33% to 37% is because he made 4 more 3 pointers than his rookie season. As a rookie, he made 50 three pointers, and as a 2nd year player, he made 54. Thats it
This year he shooting 19% from 3 on 2.1 attempts per game.
He misses a lot of shots near the rim or gets blocked by opposing players too much. Most of his shots come close to the rim and he's shooting 43% FG
he is turnover prone, averaging more turnovers than assists for the 3rd straight year
he is a poor rebounder considering his size/athleticism, only grabbing 3 rebounds per game, slightly less than his last 2 seasons (again, this was something his was told he needed to work on and he's still not doing it)
His decision-making is still poor. This was an issue going into the draft. It has only marginally improved, if at all
His motor is still poor. Again, a pre-draft concern. He still floats in and out of games
this is a graphic from his pre-draft scouting. You tell me which aspects he has improved on
So no, he is more or leess the same player he was when he was drafted. Only change is he gets more minutes.
But he is not a future star. His ceiling for a contender is what Thabo Sefolosha or Andre Roberson were for the Durant OKC Thunder
There was this idea that CP3 would "unlock Kuminga" because Draymond (the nikka who loves to hear himself talk) said it one time in an offseason interview. Therefore, fans thought that CP3 would turn Kuminga into what Blake Griffin was for the Clippers (which is disrespectful to Blake). This was based purely on Kuminga being athletic and having highlight dunks and nothing more.
This thread's title should be changed from Kuminga being slept on, to Franz Wagner being slept on. You know, the guy who was drafted ONE SPOT AFTER Kuminga? Yeah, that guy
-Tonight's game against the SAC Kings showed us why he was unplayable in the postseason. Blown coverages, bad positioning, dumb fouls, dumb shots, turnovers, bad team defense, bad rebounding
for those that don't know, Kuminga was tasked with showing more effort on the boards. That was his main assignment from Kerr and the coaching staff. He was supposed to work on that during the offseason. As it stands right now, Kuminga is currently on a 3 game streak of having ONE rebound per game. Kuminga is averaging 1 rebound per game for his last 3 games.
His 3P shot has never been good. As a rookie, he shot 33% on 2.1 attempts per game. That is less than 1 make per game.
His second year, he shot 37% on 2.2 attempts per game. Again, less than 1 make per game. The ONLY reason his percentage jumped from 33% to 37% is because he made 4 more 3 pointers than his rookie season. As a rookie, he made 50 three pointers, and as a 2nd year player, he made 54. Thats it
This year he shooting 19% from 3 on 2.1 attempts per game.
He misses a lot of shots near the rim or gets blocked by opposing players too much. Most of his shots come close to the rim and he's shooting 43% FG
he is turnover prone, averaging more turnovers than assists for the 3rd straight year
he is a poor rebounder considering his size/athleticism, only grabbing 3 rebounds per game, slightly less than his last 2 seasons (again, this was something his was told he needed to work on and he's still not doing it)
His decision-making is still poor. This was an issue going into the draft. It has only marginally improved, if at all
His motor is still poor. Again, a pre-draft concern. He still floats in and out of games
this is a graphic from his pre-draft scouting. You tell me which aspects he has improved on
So no, he is more or leess the same player he was when he was drafted. Only change is he gets more minutes.
But he is not a future star. His ceiling for a contender is what Thabo Sefolosha or Andre Roberson were for the Durant OKC Thunder
There was this idea that CP3 would "unlock Kuminga" because Draymond (the nikka who loves to hear himself talk) said it one time in an offseason interview. Therefore, fans thought that CP3 would turn Kuminga into what Blake Griffin was for the Clippers (which is disrespectful to Blake). This was based purely on Kuminga being athletic and having highlight dunks and nothing more.
This thread's title should be changed from Kuminga being slept on, to Franz Wagner being slept on. You know, the guy who was drafted ONE SPOT AFTER Kuminga? Yeah, that guy
Last edited:
Coaches and scouts are going to need to understand that every player can't just turn up their rebounding slider like it's 2K and guys magically turn into Andre Drummond on the glass. Rebounding is a skill set and natural instinct that is overlooked.
If a player's mentality is perimeter based, it's not a simple switch. From your assessment it looks like he plays like 2/3 that can't shoot when GS needs/wants him to be a 4 that's a beast on the glass.
