Why does Mugabe get alot of love from some black people?
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godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Racist British cac news spreads rumors, as they have done for the last 20 years in response to Mugabe buthering their people and expelling them. This isn't proof. So let me ask again: do you have any unbiased proof Mugabe stole 2 billion dollars worth of diamonds?
The Guardian is a left wing newspaper.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
And a mouth piece for the British government. Do you have any unbiaed proof that Mugabe stole 2 billion in diamonds or is the British government's mouthpiece the only one?
Post facts or take a seat, kid. "We gotta kick these racist cacs out" "let's rely on their newspapers to substantiate a rumor"
That don't sound to smart but...
Gimini00
Bytch Off The Bando
Much of African countries are more than 100 years behind any other countries on the globe, so it's very normal they have growth, but GDP growth doesn't mean anything if there's no redistribution and if corruption is not eliminate at government level, all this growth goes into the hands of an elite, and the rest of the population see no difference coming from that growth. Nigeria, South Africa and Zimbabwe should be a developed country right now with all the revenue that come from oil, abundance of minerals resource, and good infrastructures built by white people before the end of apartheid (electricity, schools, road, etc in South Africa), but corruption, lack of ethics and lack of humanity for the well being of their own people let a large portion of the population in poverty, humanity and environmental crisis. The biggest challenge of black people right now is not on a economic level, but it's on a human level. Corruption, lack of ethics, human rights abuse, rape, crime at a high rate, bad governance, environmental crisis are the real challenge that Africans nations must overcome. Mugabe, Zuma and others african leaders are too corrupt and incompetent to tackle these problems, the african people need to put them down and put better people who understand these challenge and have better solutions. Hating white people is not a long term plan for a country development. It's a fact that black people need to accept, we can do better if we know better, ignorance and stupidity must end in the black community. We need to support the good ones and punish the bad ones and held them accountable for the mistreatment of our own people, and Mugabe fall in this category, END OF STORY.
Youre so edgy
So what source do you rely for your facts if every newspaper is a front for cac interests, even those that have a tradition of independence like the guardian
25YOUTHS!!
Superstar
Google nikka
Did you seriously ask me what crops they grew and the tools they used?
And growing food is vastly different from farming on a commercial scale.
Remember everyone has access to knowledge in the 2015, isn't that what we're talking about here?
I'l give you an example tho: The black workers (more like indentured servants on their own land) did the tilling, planting, harvesting, getting it to market. They didn't own the equipment, know the trading/shipping contracts, co-ops, etc. Even if they grew the food getting it to market and exporting it becomes a problem. Thus the white farmers that didn't get kicked out became even richer. Being able to grow food isn't the same as being able to manage a successful commercial farm.
The country becomes a net importer, people can't afford food, hyperinflation, gov mismanagement, sanction and the cycle continues. Zimbabwe is on the come up like a lot of African countries tho
25YOUTHS!!
Superstar
Hell yea your low-key self-defeatist and white daddy agenda is falling on deaf ears
I am just being honest
I have a friend whose fathers owns a large farm and its actually complicated as fukk. It took his son 5 years to learn the tricks of the trade and now he maintains the farm. Theres even 4 year degrees in farming. Lets not pretend small scale communal farming and large scale farming are the same. Its two different beasts.Google nikka
Did you seriously ask me what crops they grew and the tools they used?
And growing food is vastly different from farming on a commercial scale.
Remember everyone has access to knowledge in the 2015, isn't that what we're talking about here?
I'l give you an example tho: The black workers (more like indentured servants on their own land) did the tilling, planting, harvesting, getting it to market. They didn't own the equipment, know the trading/shipping contracts, co-ops, etc. Even if they grew the food getting it to market and exporting it becomes a problem. Thus the white farmers that didn't get kicked out became even richer. Being able to grow food isn't the same as being able to manage a successful commercial farm.
The country becomes a net importer, people can't afford food, hyperinflation, gov mismanagement, sanction and the cycle continues. Zimbabwe is on the come up like a lot of African countries tho
Demonization of Mugabe does not work outside of the west, everywhere else he is quite popular. You cannot hide facts, and they do not have total control over information. I for one fully back Mugabe and support whatever actions he does against the shameless western puppet Morgan Tsvangirai.
Everyone in Africa also sees nothing wrong with the land reclamation, the west will not pay for an orderly and fair land reform that was similar to what was done around the world and was sorely needed, then tough luck we will simply take it.
The silly attempt at pointing the responsibility of the economic collapse of Zimbabwe on Mugabe is also not seen the same way by everyone.
We can all see how much the western embargo is to blame.The only criticism of the handling of the crisis I would give is the dropping of the currency. It was the best of several terrible solutions but they could have been more imaginative, more open minded and controversial.
If he setup a real public banking system and issued his own debt free currency and spent it on infrastructure all under tight currency control, the west would have dropped their embargo reversed their demonetization efforts and try to bribe him back under the old system, because the massive success that it would create would lead others to follow his naughty example.
Everyone in Africa also sees nothing wrong with the land reclamation, the west will not pay for an orderly and fair land reform that was similar to what was done around the world and was sorely needed, then tough luck we will simply take it.
The silly attempt at pointing the responsibility of the economic collapse of Zimbabwe on Mugabe is also not seen the same way by everyone.
We can all see how much the western embargo is to blame.The only criticism of the handling of the crisis I would give is the dropping of the currency. It was the best of several terrible solutions but they could have been more imaginative, more open minded and controversial.
If he setup a real public banking system and issued his own debt free currency and spent it on infrastructure all under tight currency control, the west would have dropped their embargo reversed their demonetization efforts and try to bribe him back under the old system, because the massive success that it would create would lead others to follow his naughty example.
Always been curious to see how Nkomo would have managed Zimbabwe if ZAPU hadn't been the minority liberation movement in popularity...
that said Mugabe while a questionable leader, balks at being seen as part of the western sphere of influence and considering many other black heads of state often seem to go to often comical lengths to be seen as friendly with Washington/London/Paris/Brussels it's not shocking that he would have a sizable amount of popularity in Africa and the diaspora
that said Mugabe while a questionable leader, balks at being seen as part of the western sphere of influence and considering many other black heads of state often seem to go to often comical lengths to be seen as friendly with Washington/London/Paris/Brussels it's not shocking that he would have a sizable amount of popularity in Africa and the diaspora
@ Cacs teaching the people anything about agriculture. You think those Rhodesians was actually in the field?The only thing they could've passed on were their links to selling shyt to foreigners, like the tobacco and maize markets but we all know why that didnt happen.
I hope South Africans wake up too, they're holding Africa back