Why Does Robin Thicke Get A Pass?

[The G.O.D II]

Exactly my point, no one knows who has what connections in the industry, it's easy to say robin thicke's parents helped him out, but you don't think timberlake's mother putting him on star search with that cowboy hat on and then being involved with one of the biggest companies on earth and then lou pearlman bringing him to the masses as the lead singer of a boy band isn't getting help in some kind of way? Granted out of the boy bands that came out, he was one of the most talented singer, but lets not act like his success is self-generated, because honestly, no one's success at that level is. timberlake has been in the industry since he was a child.

The reason why Robin Thicke gets a pass is because he seems less industry polished, more mature, more into the craft of making music. Timberlake has stated before that he was burned out on making music and wanted to give it up. and this was before his second album came out.

I'll put it another way, Robin Thicke comes across as a guy that has always been around black people and absorbed the culture without reverse kooning. timberlake comes across as the guy infatuated with the culture, but keeps it at arms length, but will wear cornrolls and bandanas to show people that he's down. It just comes across as inauthentic and forced to me.


(I'm stealing that smilie though)

When you think about it, JT didn't have it easy. Going to audition after auditions as a kid. Competing against dozens of other teens to be in a boy band. Being ridiculed and not taken seriously for years. Having critics pray his debut flopped so that their opinions can be justified and he can go away with all the other failed boy bands. He wasnt born with a silver spoon or grew up in Hollywood like Thicke. Nor did he have the advantage of fukking Quincy Jones daughter. Keep in mind the way Thicke debut flopped he should be Jon B status. He was a long haired hippy goof biting jarmariqou. And while he makes more traditional R&B, Thicke isn't all less polished or nore mature as you claim. Have we forgotten that trash he's released with Nikki? Or his last CD looked like a game album with all those features? Thicke has tried to appeal to the masses more and failed. Both guys are influenced by black culture, but JT doesn't have to pander to one group. He appeals to a larger audience. Robin Thicke's audience is only black women over 30. Which is why he is always professing his love for black women and speaking on race. Its not authentic and it comes across as .

 

[flo]

:smugcheeseeyes: Yea that worked out so well for that carter dude from backstreet boys and nick lashey

Justified was promoted. Carter and Lashey were not. Not to mention, they went for that crossover appeal demographic. Debut song at the Video Music Awards, Barbara Walters interview, countless radio interviews, magazine covers (including VIBE) an MTV documentary. Not even close to being a fair comparison.

Do not think it a coincidence that the only boy band member to make it solo also just so happens to have The Neptunes and Timbaland produce and write for him. Not to mention, he received the rejected Michael Jackson tracks.

he still had an easy transition from Disney to the pop bubble gum shyt he debuted with.

and again Thicke's first album flopped. Musically you can say Justin had an easier rode.

When you have access to top hip hop producers and a record label that promoted you and your brand, of course.

Ill never forget hearing wanna love you in 06 and thinking this cac has overtaken JT. Then his album dropped and it was nyquil elevator music. Thicke is garbage. He has no vocal range and constantly sings in that garbage ass falsetto. The only reason he's popular is because his family ties and he panders to blacks in the worst way

If Thicke's falsetto is garbage, what is that dying cat noise Justin considers singing?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch1sdksaRgk"]justin timberlake & arturo sandoval // senorita // grammys 2004 - YouTube[/ame]

Painful.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Wanna Love You Girl is a B-list Neptunes beat. It's not fukkin with Lost Without You or this joint

Robin Thicke - Sex Therapy - YouTube

That dry, terry cloth, struggle falsetto, macy department store sounding shyt is not fukking with wanna love you

 

[jwinfield]

How did we feel about Remy Shand?

 

[flo]

Exactly my point, no one knows who has what connections in the industry, it's easy to say robin thicke's parents helped him out, but you don't think timberlake's mother putting him on star search with that cowboy hat on and then being involved with one of the biggest companies on earth and then lou pearlman bringing him to the masses as the lead singer of a boy band isn't getting help in some kind of way? Granted out of the boy bands that came out, he was one of the most talented singer, but lets not act like his success is self-generated, because honestly, no one's success at that level is. timberlake has been in the industry since he was a child.

The reason why Robin Thicke gets a pass is because he seems less industry polished, more mature, more into the craft of making music. Timberlake has stated before that he was burned out on making music and wanted to give it up. and this was before his second album came out.

I'll put it another way, Robin Thicke comes across as a guy that has always been around black people and absorbed the culture without reverse kooning. timberlake comes across as the guy infatuated with the culture, but keeps it at arms length, but will wear cornrolls and bandanas to show people that he's down. It just comes across as inauthentic and forced to me.


(I'm stealing that smilie though)

From a pure vocalist standpoint, Timberlake would be toward the bottom of the top ten. He was only the third best singer in his own group (after Chasez and Fatone) and from their rivals the Backstreet Boys, Brian Litrell and AJ McLean were also far superior singers. But he was far more marketable.

90% of boy band members can also play instruments like Timberlake. He's not special. The only thing Justin had was the appeal to tap into the urban market.

Everything else you said was on point.

Id take Jessica Biel over Paula Patton any day of the week.

When you think about it, JT didn't have it easy. Going to audition after auditions as a kid. Competing against dozens of other teens to be in a boy band. Being ridiculed and not taken seriously for years. Having critics pray his debut flopped so that their opinions can be justified and he can go away with all the other failed boy bands. He wasnt born with a silver spoon or grew up in Hollywood like Thicke. Nor did he have the advantage of fukking Quincy Jones daughter.

He did not compete to be in NSYNC. Chris Kirkpatrick asked him to join the group he was starting; Justin asked his friend JC Chasez from the Mickey Mouse Club to join as well. Joey Fatone knew the both of them because he worked in Orlando and went to school with one of the cast members of MMC. They got Lance Bass through Justin's vocal coach because they needed a bass singer because the acapella was quite right. So with the exception of Bass, they all basically knew one another.

He was very lucky. MMC was canceled just after two seasons after he joined. If did not get the offer to join a group, he would be a complete nobody.

 

[The G.O.D II]

From a pure vocalist standpoint, Timberlake would be toward the bottom of the top ten. He was only the third best singer in his own group (after Chasez and Fatone) and from their rivals the Backstreet Boys, Brian Litrell and AJ McLean were also far superior singers. But he was far more marketable.

90% of boy band members can also play instruments like Timberlake. He's not special. The only thing Justin had was the appeal to tap into the urban market.

Everything else you said was on point.

He did not compete to be in NSYNC. Chris Kirkpatrick asked him to join the group he was starting; Justin asked his friend JC Chasez from the Mickey Mouse Club to join as well. Joey Fatone knew the both of them because he worked in Orlando and went to school with one of the cast members of MMC. They got Lance Bass through Justin's vocal coach because they needed a bass singer because the acapella was quite right. So with the exception of Bass, they all basically knew one another.

He was very lucky. MMC was canceled just after two seasons after he joined. If did not get the offer to join a group, he would be a complete nobody.

Goddamn nikka my bad. Didn't know there were boy band historians in this world Carry on

 

[MouseTeeth]

Umm because he's talented??

 

[MouseTeeth]

Goddamn nikka my bad. Didn't know there were boy band historians in this world Carry on

Lmao he really knew the lineage of those gay ass groups

 

[mozichrome]

because nobody outside of this message board gives a shiit.....

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

Why do people here care about anything beside the quality of the music? why do they care about the skin color of the singer/rapper? age? His jeans fit? his haircut?

Image has mattered in most popular (I said most) music since the 50s and 60s. Once television and American Bandstand got popular, then Soul Train and such, image has always mattered in regards to being the most popular artist in a certain genre.

Not saying it's right... just saying it's been like that for 60+ years. And it's not about to change now.

 

[JahBuhLun]

From a pure vocalist standpoint, Timberlake would be toward the bottom of the top ten. He was only the third best singer in his own group (after Chasez and Fatone) and from their rivals the Backstreet Boys, Brian Litrell and AJ McLean were also far superior singers. But he was far more marketable.

90% of boy band members can also play instruments like Timberlake. He's not special. The only thing Justin had was the appeal to tap into the urban market.

Everything else you said was on point.

He did not compete to be in NSYNC. Chris Kirkpatrick asked him to join the group he was starting; Justin asked his friend JC Chasez from the Mickey Mouse Club to join as well. Joey Fatone knew the both of them because he worked in Orlando and went to school with one of the cast members of MMC. They got Lance Bass through Justin's vocal coach because they needed a bass singer because the acapella was quite right. So with the exception of Bass, they all basically knew one another.

He was very lucky. MMC was canceled just after two seasons after he joined. If did not get the offer to join a group, he would be a complete nobody.

I heard that one single by Chasez a few years back, I didn't know Fatone could sing like that, I know he either done some broadway or off broadway productions, but yeah, you offered up some good info.

 

[JahBuhLun]

Why do people here care about anything beside the quality of the music? why do they care about the skin color of the singer/rapper? age? His jeans fit? his haircut?

Because there exists a double standard when it comes to who creates the quality music. Like I said before, Maxwell was doing the type of music that timberlake is doing, but with more soul in my opinion, but he's hardly mentioned on this site.

Granted, timberlake coming back after 7 years with some catchy beats has garnered him some attention from his fans who want to see him succeed. But he has in no way saved rnb and soul music, nor has he reinvented the concept of soul music. But like I told @VaderMaster, Im a hater when it comes to timberlake's music, so it is what it is. My view will always slant away from giving him full accolades.

 

[jwinfield]

Because there exists a double standard when it comes to who creates the quality music. Like I said before, Maxwell was doing the type of music that timberlake is doing, but with more soul in my opinion, but he's hardly mentioned on this site.

Because he hasn't made an album in 4 years.

He took 8 years before releasing his last album and came out with something that opened up at #1 selling 316k the first week and eventually went plat with critical acclaim.

IIRC, the album was the first in a trilogy, one was supposed to drop the next 2 years. Have no idea what's happened to that.

 

[theincredibleone]

Been a fan of Robin Thicke since he was named Thicke riding a bicycle through NYC for his first video. People give him a pass because he has never tried to crossover. He stays in his distinct soul crooner lane making melodic music.

Timberlake was initially made by Pharrell & Chad who used all the tracks Michael Jackson turned down to make Justified. There are videos on YouTube on the making of Justified and you see how Pharrell was even dictating his ad-libs. Pharrell is now saying he is going to do the same thing with Miley Cyrus that he did with Justin Timberlake...good luck with that.

 

[CHITLING flavored CEREAL]

So black people give this guy a pass for marrying a bi-racial woman and having an octeroon?

Look at that lovely black family