why does will smith get an eternal pass when he has no rap cred?

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  1. Ziggiy

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    Big Willie Style and Lost & Found are NOT trash albums in any sense of the word....

    Will wrote Summertime himself as confirmed by Jazzy Jeff

    Will, while not the best rapper by ANY stretch, has in his way, carried the torch for Hip Hop since he was 17 years old and had his first hit record. Dj Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince won the FIRST Grammy for Best Rap Performance, and boycotted the ceremony as a showing of protest for the way the industry was shytting on the culture at the time. Dude had the Illmatic poster put in his room on the Fresh Prince set. He created a timeless Hip Hop summer classic. Will deserves the respect he's earned...
     
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    Yep, that's pretty much how I regard him, as the OG Skee Lo making goofy anthems that appeal to kids. There are about 9,000 M.C.s who fit that bill. I liked him rapping over that I Dream of Genie loop as much as any kid did. I also liked The Count kicking alphabet-related bars on Sesame Street. :manny:

    Yes, thread-respondent, I am indeed serious. Will Smith is a shytty rapper who uses ghostwriters and makes tissue soft, watered down, whitewashed crappy pop rap that no one with any sense of musical taste could possibly enjoy. Yes, I am serious about this most basic and obvious claim.


    No. I grew up in New York City across Harlem and Brooklyn during the formative years of hiphop, have a famous rapper in my family, have grown up with people deeply involved in creating hip hop culture, actually came up on all the shyt people go back and retrospectively talk out their ass about, but I have somehow missed the boat on this hip hop shyt. Please educate me. Especially regarding Will Smith, a truly legendary M.C. who is at least top... 5,000 or something of all time. Just because the homie punched an alien in the nose on screen and saved the world doesn't make the dude a talented M.C.


    did you just call me "pleasure," plehboi? Didn't know my nickname was out there like that.

    Oh.

    Some quality irony there.
     
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    His work between 87-89 was respectable. He obviously was no Rakim or KRS or even Special Ed, but it was cool. He's been trash ever since. Summertime doesn't count because he didn't write it. This used to knock though.

     
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    Great artist to me, underrated, top 50.
     
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    He's also got some incredible flows.
     
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    :usure:

    :snoop:

    :sitdown:
     
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    He blacked out on that He's the DJ..... album

    Homebase is a classic album

    Will had nice rhymes
     
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    Stop it Walt cause you are obviously :troll:
    you from the ol' school and you KNOW his first 2 albums are classics. hell I'm as street a nikka as you can find but I KNOW shyt like this were some real hip hop shyt






    That nikka has a Hip Hop pass for life.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKOX6Curnro]You Saw My Blinker [Album Version] - YouTube[/ame] hit me again and I'll break your wrist :rudy:
     
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    His fresh prince of bel air cred>>>>>Rap cred

    Will was swagged out and mackin mad hoes on that show then became an a list actor wit mad blockbuster movies
     
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    really doesnt get a lot purer than this. id pay good money to see a show like that today
     
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    Think he gets most of his love mainly as a personality moreso than as a rapper...he's something of an negro 80's baby icon...rose from semi-serious rapper to the star of what ended up being a definitive sitcom to movie star...all the way to this point where's one of a handful of legitimate black hollywood/pop culture A-Listers...had he just had to lean on his actual rap career, the latter part of it wouldn't even exist at all (no way he would've survived the death of colorful rayon shirt era rap in the early 90's if Fresh Prince of Bel Air hadn't taken off)...and we'd largely look at him in the same nostalgic way we look at the Kid N Plays and Kwames of the world...but not as some kind of legendary figure or anything
     
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    I like the title track to Rock The House with Ready Roc C beatboxing and Brand New Funk to this day. The rest of his stuff is kid shyt and I've always hated him on screen.
     
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    Because his debut came out in 1987. Old school rappers always get passes.
     
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    the fact that he and jeff started out MCing and DJing at live parties makes them real to me :yeshrug: plus this is a great battle track

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1f2b1BAIek#t=65s"]He's the DJ, i'm the rapper - Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - YouTube[/ame]
     
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