Why Doesnt Jack Johnson Get The Props That Muhammad Ali Gets?

[Mike Otherz]

feel like we need a movie on this dude, and just many black figures in general. gotta be a good movie though, raging bull levels of excellence.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Nobody from the early 1900s get props like those from later years who had a more readily available media at they expose

Hell marcus garvey probably should be getting a lot more love than malcolm x does. But we have all of malcolm speeches and interviews to lean on and educate ourselves with.

 

[Knights89]

Nobody from the early 1900s get props like those from later years who had a more readily available media at they expose

Hell marcus garvey probably should be getting a lot more love than malcolm x does. But we have all of malcolm speeches and interviews to lean on and educate ourselves with.

Garvey had a great influence on Malcolms patents as well

 

[Knights89]

I watch Unforgivable Blackness a couple times a year.

When he broke the color barrier and was able to fight for the title he put up his own color barrier and refused to fight black fighters for the title he fought those dudes on the come up and was like no more of that plus he could earn way more against white opponents

 

[feelosofer]

Jack Johnson was a great fighter no doubt. But Ali had the hardest road to the Heavy Titles and it wasn't close. Most of Ali's biggest oppenents were greats in their own right. Even some of the people he lost to in later years ended up greats, in their own right.

Jack Johnson in his prime stayed away from other Black fighters preferring to fight lesser white dudes. both because of a bigger pay-day and less likely to lose.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Ali into and in the 70's era is the greatest and hardest heavyweight era ever!

 

[WheresWallace]

Jack was making em all mad... lol

From the SI vault:

Jack Johnson was facing an angry mob. During the turbulent years when he was the first black man to hold the heavyweight boxing championship, Johnson routinely fought surrounded by menacing white crowds. But on that June night in 1936, Johnson wasn't champion, and the mob wasn't white. Hours earlier, Joe Louis had been beaten by Germany's Max Schmeling at Yankee Stadium in New York City, sending many black Americans into shock. AsHarlem erupted in frustration and rage, Johnson roamed the neighborhood flaunting the money he had won betting against Louis. Now people wanted Jack Johnson's blood.

"That Joe has a lot to learn," Johnson had said. Louis, he claimed, was a "mechanical fighter" who didn't know how to think in the ring, a "clumsy greenhorn" with an "off-balance stance." And Johnson had continually pointed out the flaw that had proved to be Louis's undoing. " Louis holds his left too low," Johnson had warned before the Schmeling fight, "and the first fellow who makes him step back and then throws a right at his chin will knock him out."

That was exactly the tactic that Schmeling used to send Louis to the canvas three times. Although the German had detected Louis's vulnerability on his own, Johnson viewed the victory as vindication of his own boxing genius. Harlemites, already stung by Louis's defeat, were infuriated by Johnson's bragging. It didn't take long for a mob to form, with Johnson as its target. Mercifully, the police intervened and rescued Johnson.

How did they know that the German discovered this on his own? Can they substantiate this or is this another case of cacs caccing? :thinking:

 

[Ziggiy]

Nobody from the early 1900s get props like those from later years who had a more readily available media at they expose

Hell marcus garvey probably should be getting a lot more love than malcolm x does. But we have all of malcolm speeches and interviews to lean on and educate ourselves with.

Marcus Garvey was truly an icon for Black Excellence and progression. I wouldn't say he deserves MORE love than Malcolm but they were certainly soldiers of the same struggle

 

[IWasntMadeToPlayTheSon]

jack johnson used to wrap his dikk in a towel to make it look bigger and scare the white boxers...he said they were always looking and asking about his dikk

 

[Rick Roller 10]

Sugar Ray Robinson was the GOAT

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Marcus Garvey was truly an icon for Black Excellence and progression. I wouldn't say he deserves MORE love than Malcolm but they were certainly soldiers of the same struggle

Yea both of them were great, but many still don't understand the magnitude of what garvey built in the early 1900s. It still has not been duplicated to this day. But honestly malcolm is garvey baby considering both his parents were garveyites.

 

[same damn lo sweater]

one of the most interesting life stories ever


7:30, ran away to new york when he was 12 just to meet one of his idols

patented his own wrench while he was in prison
http://inventors.about.com/od/wstartinventions/ss/wrench.htm

 

[Carolina Slim]

Dude was trolling whites by openly dating beckys at a time when the KKK was its peak (and blacks were getting lynched frequently)

Wish that pic was big enough so we could get a :smugjackjohnson: smiley...

 

[NYC Rebel]

This is a really weird thread. Being Black is more than fukking pawgs and making whites mad. Ya nikkas are lost. Lol

In a general sense, yes. But this is the founding father of it who made white folks at a time where stringing a nikka up was commonplace. A man who did so and pimped that anger to his financial benefit. A pioneer.

This isn't a normal case.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Wish that pic was big enough so we could get a :smugjackjohnson: smiley...

If only we had some real modern era sports coverage. His smilies would've been golden