I'm 30 and don't get the top 5 appeal either. Yes, he has absolute bangers & quotables but so does Wayne - who if someone dared call T5 overall & not personal fav, we'd look at crazy. I see his status tied more to intangibles: business ventures, image, longevity & not MC. To me he's a more sanitized/polished amalgam of Pusha T and Westsidegunn.
Why doesn't this new generation seem to understand or grasp why Jay-Z was considered a top draw?
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Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
444 was a mature album… He was making grown man music while you dummies wanted to put money to your ear.
If u want Jay to rap about stunting in his prime, go back and listen to Vol 1 on your standard streaming service and any other Jay albums before 2003.
Grown Man Jigga era was from 2006-2017.
Kids aren’t used to that realism in rap
Because music has largely decentralized, in terms of consumption.
My music tastes were shaped by what my parents listened to, what was played on the radio, and what I’d hear in video games, at parties, or out of other people’s whips.
I heard Pete Rock & CL Smooth for the first time on NBA Street Vol. 2, Digable Planets’ Rebirth of Slick played by my pre-school teacher, Outstanding by my mom on the ride home, Adina Howard on 93.1 on the schoolbus, and JAY Z on MTV before class in elementary school.
Most youths hear music on Spotify and from other kids. All of it self-referential.
They need more outside music exposure.
My music tastes were shaped by what my parents listened to, what was played on the radio, and what I’d hear in video games, at parties, or out of other people’s whips.
I heard Pete Rock & CL Smooth for the first time on NBA Street Vol. 2, Digable Planets’ Rebirth of Slick played by my pre-school teacher, Outstanding by my mom on the ride home, Adina Howard on 93.1 on the schoolbus, and JAY Z on MTV before class in elementary school.
Most youths hear music on Spotify and from other kids. All of it self-referential.
They need more outside music exposure.
I regularly ask who your top 5 to people at work if I know they like rap or are music heads, and Jay is the only rapper from my top 5* that ever gets questioned. Like, weirdly hostile too.
"JAY Z? Really?"
Granted, I bet most of them, particularly the younger Gen Z cats, have never listened to the others, but they are usually like
or just dont comment on the rest. One dude was like yeah breh you an old head
*my other 4 are Nas, Face, Pac, Cube
"JAY Z? Really?"
Granted, I bet most of them, particularly the younger Gen Z cats, have never listened to the others, but they are usually like
or just dont comment on the rest. One dude was like yeah breh you an old head*my other 4 are Nas, Face, Pac, Cube
My kids are teens 2....they're heavy on the throwback shyt.
I personally was 2 young 2 appreciate jay in real time. you need a refined pallet 2 get it it
What’s funny is at his age now… I doubt Jay gives a single fukk
He always told us he was about his bread. Him and Beyoncé are notorious wave riders from other artists and I remeber when this niigga was standing with Kaepernick only to turn around to work with the NFL
Jay is a perfect example of striking while the iron is hot. He grind his ass off for 20+ years and told people he was the greatest rapper alive and eventually the world believed him now he is fading to black with billions
He always told us he was about his bread. Him and Beyoncé are notorious wave riders from other artists and I remeber when this niigga was standing with Kaepernick only to turn around to work with the NFL
Jay is a perfect example of striking while the iron is hot. He grind his ass off for 20+ years and told people he was the greatest rapper alive and eventually the world believed him now he is fading to black with billions
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
This is a fantasy in your head in actuality Jay is the biggest hip hop success story, widely acclaimed, and a lot of his music has appreciated in time.
Obviously young people won’t get it some of them are against anything old in general they’re kids. There’s still kids that are connected and know shyt and immerse themselves in niches and old music that may still appreciate Jay. This generation has a huge 00’s appreciation.
Obviously young people won’t get it some of them are against anything old in general they’re kids. There’s still kids that are connected and know shyt and immerse themselves in niches and old music that may still appreciate Jay. This generation has a huge 00’s appreciation.
Thats Bulllshyt. and most of the Coli proudly claims they don't have kids and are not a part of their community.
I was a rakim Stan as a teen and none of my peers knew who he was.
I just love music like that.
I also know a lot of 70s/80s jams despite being a 80s baby.
This new generation of kids is dope AF IMO and are really students and not as dumb as the previous.
Westbama Heartthrob
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Yall old nikkas just don't understand that Jay has been surpassed on both fronts
It's nikkas that make way more entertaining music that resonates with the current gen. Love it or hate it, it's just facts. Carti, future, gunna, thug, or lil baby gonna get them going more than whatever bangers yall say Jay got
And on the intellectual front, I legit don't get it. Jay z never made music that anybody who passed the 6th grade wouldn't be able to follow. Rappers like canibus, lupe, ras Kass, or ab soul are way better examples of that who've long surpassed anything Jay has ever said
I'll give him props for being clever, but clever ain't the same as actually having something to say. And Jay z isn't gonna connect with my generation who is more left wing that yalls was. We're ideologically opposed on practically every issue. Jay z is pretty much the epitome of everything I hate
He doesn't stand for anything other than making money. Any pseudo revolutionary platitudes he preaches are undercut if you have half a brain to see he's just trying to sell you something. It's hilarious how the same posters who call kendrick a fake activist don't look at Jay z the same way when he's an even more glaring example of the same exact shyt
Yet we're the dumb ones for not falling for it
It's nikkas that make way more entertaining music that resonates with the current gen. Love it or hate it, it's just facts. Carti, future, gunna, thug, or lil baby gonna get them going more than whatever bangers yall say Jay got
And on the intellectual front, I legit don't get it. Jay z never made music that anybody who passed the 6th grade wouldn't be able to follow. Rappers like canibus, lupe, ras Kass, or ab soul are way better examples of that who've long surpassed anything Jay has ever said
I'll give him props for being clever, but clever ain't the same as actually having something to say. And Jay z isn't gonna connect with my generation who is more left wing that yalls was. We're ideologically opposed on practically every issue. Jay z is pretty much the epitome of everything I hate
He doesn't stand for anything other than making money. Any pseudo revolutionary platitudes he preaches are undercut if you have half a brain to see he's just trying to sell you something. It's hilarious how the same posters who call kendrick a fake activist don't look at Jay z the same way when he's an even more glaring example of the same exact shyt
Yet we're the dumb ones for not falling for it
Jay's biggest downfall if we gonna hate on jay is he was proud on selling out.
When that happened his music took a huge downturn.
I mean Jay made historic moves from a rapper to a business man. But that partnership with the NFL, Samsung, Reebok, etc etc really did show you dude was just about his paper.
Jay never stood on anything solid other than making a dollar…
Certain rappers don't have these problems though
Not for nothing the south was really unfairly hated on by media publications.
My oldest was watching a skate video that just dropped and the soundtrack was 400 degrees by juvie
I mean Jay made historic moves from a rapper to a business man. But that partnership with the NFL, Samsung, Reebok, etc etc really did show you dude was just about his paper.
Jay never stood on anything solid other than making a dollar…
Prior to that tho his music and skill was next level.
When I was really outside he was dropping shyt like this
The black album was always super over-rated just because it was the retirement album.
I felt like a lot of my peers were jocking that shyt just cause. It was not it.