Why don't blacks still celebrate Kwanzaa these days?

[Gold]

If you aren't New Afrikan, then it isn't part of your culture per se. The holiday is a cultural derivative of African cultures, created for those of us in the diaspora whose original cultures were forcibly stripped. Nonetheless people of African descent around the world, including in Africa, celebrate the holiday.

I'm pretty sure no one in my entire extended family even knows what kwanza is

 

[Doobie Doo]

You were recently in another thread saying weird shyt. You get no receipts.. Im building a case

Without receipts your case is worthless.

 

[JackRoss]

We've hit rock bottom as a people.

At least you see it

 

[JackRoss]

Without receipts your case is worthless.

Ok

 

[Wildhundreds]

At least you see it

White democrats ask black people to save them in Alabama, we break our necks to do it.

Black people ask black people to come out and support OUR OWN, we got better things to do.

We gone.

 

[JackRoss]

White democrats ask black people to save them in Alabama, we break our necks to do it.

Black people ask black people to come out and support OUR OWN, we got better things to do.

We gone.

Gimmick/puppets

 

[smokeurobinson]

Naw Christmas came across the seas with Europeans. It was so savage in Europe that early Christians in america actually wouldn't celebrate the holiday. Christmas as well as thanksgiving unlike others who had a choice in the matter , just like Christianity was forced on us. The would pull the slaves out and force them to entertain the slave owners and whip whoever wouldn't participate.

I do agree that American culture is an amalgamation of many other cultures but cultural pride is something all other groups of people maintain even after adopting another cultural practice. The difference with us is, we didn't find a way to make these holidays unique to us we fully adopted their customs while forgetting our own. Not having those roots and education in history is what cause the adverse effects of hatred and violence we have with one another.

The key here, is open your eyes and see what all other productive groups of people choose to celebrate these holidays and their god vs us. We are the only ones who praise a god that doesn't look like us, we are the only ones who adopted practices while totally eradicating our own. We have to have a sense of our own identity just as every other group here in america has. We can't be the only group acting totally like white people then calling that American culture.

If you really wanna talk "cultural pride" then some of us are going to have to face hard truths. Like for instance...70% of Blacks in America have a "niger-kordofanian" background. Thats a fact.

but no one wants to embrace this

Instead we focus on what the whiteman is focused on...Egypt.

Oh how we love talking about Egypt aka Kemet....we tip ride Isis and Horus. We see Tupac with his mom in the form of Nefertiti tatted on his body. U see Black Americans rocking "the ankh' like its regular jewlery. We have conversations about how the building of the pyramids is such a mystery. Oh how we love saying Egypt was Black. We stuck on Egypt. But most Black Americans arent rooted in the upper eastern part of Africa. And when slavery came...Egypt was occupied by Muslims so whats with all this Egypt dikk riding? Why we dont talk about Angola ot Tanzania?


You know what u dont hear? You dont hear Blacks in America talking about investing in real estate in Mozambique even tho Real Estate is high quality over there this very second. Ask a Black person what they think of the king of Swaziland having crowds of virgins from all over gathering around with t*ts hanging out, adult women and teens all trying to win his favor to be his wife...Most these Black folks dont know shyt about that. If the whiteman aint focused on it...neither are we. Whiteman was focused on South Africa in the late 80's/early 90's now all of a sudden the conscuous community is focused on South Africa. And of course who soon followed? The conscious rappers of the time....KRS, Public Enemy...oh how they were name dropping South Africa when the whiteman had his eyes on it.....who in hip hop is screaming south Africa now?



Do u wanna have a real conversation where we aint talking just for daps? Cuz I'm about to go there...

You speak of our lack of cultural pride......Well lets be realistic .......we dont really wanna say that this is us.....

Admit it...u know Blacks dont wanna embrace this....We act like we do openly.... we dont say it out loud but Blacks are shamed of having this as our history.....Why? Because its rooted in the false impression that the whiteman actually civilized us from being primitive and gave us a better life in America taking us out of Africa by force.

Again majority of Blacks in America have a "niger-kordofanian" background....But we'll embrace Egypt before we embrace what we really are. We say "well Egypt is in Africa so thats us" but technically, according to the bloodline, it aint us....we dont wanna embrace that "bushmen" image. Keep it a buck. I'm half Honduran so I have no choice but to embrace it but my fellow Black Americans subconsciously aint embracing it.


U wanna talk cultural pride? Da Lench Mob and X Clan at one point tried to push the "bushman" image on the youth but it never caught on....Even MJ in the beginning of the "Black or White" video was pushing the "bushmen" image on us.......Instead we embraced being "Americanized" baseball hats, shirts with name brand logos and expensive sneakers. As Black Americans we embraced Fubu and Rockawear. Jordans and any other Black athlete with a shoe. The snowman T shirst was negative but it was a "hood thing" that spoke to Black folks in the ghetto. And then there is Jazz, Rock N Roll, R&B and Hip Hop. Yes our ancestrial culture was taken from us but in the midst of that it created The Black American...We have our own culture. And IMO I say its a culture that is still developing.

 

[K.Dot]

I remember back in the 90s, families had Kwanzaa celebrations, had kinaras, exchanged handmade gifts, and actually partook in the holiday. I remember going down to Atlanta with to see my extended family and it was really a thing.

Now it seems that Kwanzaa is just a relic or even a joke. I only know a few people who celebrate Kwanzaa and they are hoteps at the highest level.

Do you celebrate Kwanzaa? If not, why not?

Plenty of African Americans celebrate Kwanzaa. I guess it depends on where you live. Where are you?

 

[K.Dot]

Same reason why Juneteenth is celebrated by few

But that's hella popular though

 

[ba'al]

Karenga use to strip and beat women with electrical cords as well.

 

[ba'al]

Because Kwanzaa was started by an FBI informant and c00n.

You right this just another thread to throw shade but Dr.Clarke explains it a lot better.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Same reason why Juneteenth is celebrated by few

Didn't know this was an actual holiday till i went to college

 

[Whogivesafuck]

You right this just another thread to throw shade but Dr.Clarke explains it a lot better.

Clarke is hating, and held a grudge for decades.

 

[BigMan]

Didn't know this was an actual holiday till i went to college

i didn't even know what Juneteenth was until i went to college

towards the OP's question, i only knew two families that celebrate Kwanzaa every year

Spoiler

and neither families were AAs

 

[Whogivesafuck]

Because Kwanzaa was started by an FBI informant and c00n.

Yet Geronimo Pratt said he wasn't. The beef with the panthers started with Eldridge Cleaver pressing US.